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Over 100 Germans are fighting on the side of the militias.

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Over a hundred of German citizens reportedly have joined militias in eastern Ukraine.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Over a hundred of German citizens, including those with military training, have joined militias in eastern Ukraine to fight against Ukrainian government troops, Die Welt reported Sunday.

A research by Welt Am Sonntag has found that the majority of Germans swelling the ranks of anti-Kiev forces have USSR background. Some of them served with the Bundeswehr, known collectively as German armed forces.

A member of Chancellor Angela Merkel's ruling party, Stephan Mayer, told the newspaper German nationals who take part in civil wars should be taken to court. At present, the German criminal code only punishes those who fight alongside the brutal Islamic State (ISIL) terror group in Syria and Iraq.

Mayer also urged to strip those with dual citizenship of their German nationality and purposed criminal charges against Germans who go to war in eastern Ukraine.

The news was met with concern by Ukraine's ambassador in Berlin, Andriy Melnyk, who called on the federal government to stop its citizens from "travelling to the east to take part in the killings," Die Welt reported.

The United Nations estimates that the armed conflict in eastern Ukraine has killed more than 6,000 people, since it broke out in April 2014. Earlier this year, the Ukrainian government announced it was considering whether to ask the UN to deploy international peacekeepers to the region, but there was no formal request.
 
Miragedriver

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Konstantinovka Ukroarmy drunk soldiers in tank killed mother with girl in accident and left the place. Riot in city



Back to bottling my Grenache
 
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How the Donbass sees Kiev's dismissal of all the points of the Minsk 2 agreement.

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As the leaders of the proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics Alexander Zakharchenko and Igor Plotnitsky announced, no compromise with Kiev is possible until the "disgraceful decisions" made by the president of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko and its Verkhovnaya Rada regarding the special status of Donbass are cancelled.


"By refusing to give Donbass its special status, Kiev shattered the fragile Minsk peace and drove the situation into a dead-end. Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk cynically laughed at their partners from the EU, who wasted so many efforts for these negotiations. The leaders of the DPR and the LPR say that no compromise with Kiev is possible until yesterday's decisions by Poroshenko and the Verkhovnaya Rada are cancelled," — says the announcement published on the website of LuganskInformCenter.
The announcement also notes that Kiev does not want peace, but rather tries to destroy Donbass using violence and the economic blockade. The leaders of the DPR and the LPR used this statement to express their discontent with the amendments made by the Verkhovnaya Rada for the law about the special status of Donbass, which were passed earlier. According to this statement, the amendments only list those settlements that mark the separation line and don't list every district, city, town, and village in which the special status must be enacted, which is demanded by Article 1 of the Law of Ukraine about the special status.
Besides, the changes that were not agreed with the DPR and the LPR were introduced into the law. These changes set the conditions for holding the local elections in Donbass. Zakharchenko and Plotnitsky also expressed their discontent with the fact that the enactment of special status in certain districts of Donbass by Poroshenko's amendments has been delayed for indefinite period of time. This, says the statement, roughly violates Point 4 of the complex of measures [for the implementation of the Minsk agreements].
The appeal by the Rada for the UN Security Council and the Council of the European Union with a request of deploying peacekeepers into Ukraine, according to the statement, violates the whole logic of the peace plan. "This is yet another attempt to quit the Minsk agreements, which is camouflaged by good intentions", — says the statement.

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(in Russian) - link

PS. The only thing that is interesting in all of these accusations directed at the junta of doing what it always does and violating all of the agreements that were signed with it is the terms when the next sequence of fraud and deceit will conclude with high-intensity military action. The fact that Kiev is not going to implement the Minsk agreements is absolutely obvious and it makes absolutely no sense to discuss how Kiev can actually implement them. These types of announcements by the leadership of the DPR and the LPR as well as the yesterday's statements by the MFA of the RF have long-term meaning only in the aspect of declaring the fascist junta to be fully responsible for the upcoming military action.
 
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picture from the blog of "Cassad" with 40 points of changes in the Crimea over last years:
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and here's what DefenseNews had to say:
Russia Marks Crimea Annexation Anniversary
Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday triumphantly joined tens of thousands of supporters to mark one year since his takeover of Crimea, a seismic shift that shattered ties with Ukraine and the West.

Putin appeared on stage in front of a flag-waving crowd at a celebratory concert by the walls of the Kremlin to make an impassioned justification for seizing the Black Sea peninsula in a move that sent his poll ratings soaring.

"We understood that in terms of Crimea it was not a matter of just some territory, however strategically important it is," Putin told the crowd.

"It was a matter of millions of Russian people, our compatriots, who needed our help and support," he said, before joining in a rendition of the national anthem.

The concert in Moscow — estimated to have drawn 110,000 people by local police — was the culmination of days of highly-choreographed nationwide festivities to mark the anniversary.

Despite condemnation from the West and Kiev that the radical redrawing of Europe's borders amounted to an illegal land grab, people at the event echoed the belief of many Russian that the annexation had corrected a historical injustice.

"It means a lot to us, it was always ours after all. Our grandparents shed their blood for it," said Alexei, 39, a security guard who stood smoking with his friends near Saint Basil's Cathedral.

While some Russians celebrated having recovered Crimea, Amnesty International accused the region's pro-Kremlin authorities of an "unrelenting campaign of intimidation to silence dissent" under Russia's rule.

"Since Russia annexed Crimea, the de facto authorities are using a vast array of bully boy tactics to crack down on dissent; a spate of abductions between March and September have prompted many vocal critics to leave the region," John Dalhuisen, Amnesty International's Director for Europe and Central Asia, said.

"Those remaining face a range of harassment from authorities determined to silence their opponents," he said in a statement.

'Return Home'

Putin signed a treaty claiming the Black Sea region of Crimea as Russian territory with Crimean prime minister Sergei Aksyonov two days after more than 97 percent of Crimeans voted in favour of joining Russia in a disputed referendum on March 16, 2014.

The poll — unrecognized by the international community — was held under the eyes of elite Russian troops who had swarmed key sites across Crimea two weeks earlier in unmarked uniforms.

In Crimea, people were given a day off work to enjoy concerts and firework displays.

"For us Crimeans this is a celebration of our long-awaited return home," the Moscow-backed Aksyonov said in a statement.

"Russia protected our legitimate right to choose for ourselves unity with our historical motherland."

Putin claims he was forced to take over Crimea — home to Russia's key Black Sea Fleet — to protect ethnic Russians in the wake of the ouster of Ukraine's Kremlin-backed president Viktor Yanukovych.

To many Russians, it was considered justified payback for Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev handing the region to Ukraine in 1954 in what was then a largely symbolic move since Ukraine and Russia were both part of the USSR.

The move sent relations with Kiev and the West into a tailspin that has seen sanctions batter the Russian economy and Crimea placed under an effective economic blockade by Ukraine.

A pro-Russian rebellion — which the West says has been orchestrated by Moscow — quickly also engulfed part of Ukraine's industrial east, sparking a nearly year-long conflict that has claimed over 6,000 lives.

Ukraine and the United States have said that they will never accept the annexation of Crimea by Russia.
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pla101prc

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Well, as I said all along, Mr. Putin was up to his usual dirty biznez in the Crimea, his joining this celebration, is proof enough of that, sad that the people of the Ukraine will continue to suffer, and sad that their was/is no Calvary to ride to their defense?
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while i applaud you for your sympathy, at least make a visit to crimea and talk to the people there. I for one was not surprised at all at the referendum result, knowing the opinions of its people.
 
Air Force Brat

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pla101prc said:
while i applaud you for your sympathy, at least make a visit to crimea and talk to the people there. I for one was not surprised at all at the referendum result, knowing the opinions of its people.
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I have been extremely tolerant of your Mom and Apple Pie Propaganda posting style, but enough is enough and other members posting in a similar style from the opposing perspective, have had suspensions and warnings from other moderators.
Take this a formal warning and the last before your name joins the list at the top of the forum.
There is no excuse as you have been here more than long enough.
 
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This video by Russian Duma Deputy Evgeny Fedorov is very interesting.
On one level he describes the Nemtsov murder as a failed attempt to start a Maidan style Coup d'etat in Moscow and describes how the Ukraine would be linked to a Regime Change operation in Russia.
On another level he examines the anatomy and mechanics of the Colour Revolution and applies them to the events of Maidan and Moscow.

There is no doubt that many members will have highly divergent opinions on his arguments but I do believe that members of all shades will be interested in listening to what Deputy Federov has to say. It is all the more interesting as he predicted in April 2014 that a Colour Revolution would be attempted in Russia in 2015

Irrespective, this is a view commonly held in Russia and not something explained by the the Western MSM to the general public. It is also a justification argument for Russian intervention in the Ukraine and a definition of the precise core interests that Russia needs to defend.

I found this video as a feature on the Saker website.

 
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