V-22 Osprey Thread - News, Pics, Videos
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SamuraiBlue
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JMSDF will probably buy 16~20 of those and place it on the JS Hyuga, JS Ise, JS Izumo and the last one being constructed right now. That's 4~5 on each ship. JMSDF would probably acquire 12 AEW type if the US creates them.
The SV-22 and the EV-22, IMHO, are very natural developments for the Osprey.
The US will probably work with others, like Japan, perhaps Australia, Italy, the UK, and others to develop the market and then the aircraft.
The UK looked at the AEW variant and then decided to go with a helicopter solution. I am relatively sure it was a cost issue for them versus the need for the expected gain...with a little bit of nation NIHS added.
I personally believe the US should develop them both for their own use on the Carriers, LHDs, LHAs, LPDs for the AEW and for EV, and for all of the Large Amphibs for the AEW.
I believe other nations like Japan and Australia could put both of those variants to extremely good use as well.
Jura The idiot
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Jura The idiot
General
yesterday under some blog a poster said Israel cancelled Ospreys to get F-35s ... I didn't believe it, but used google anyway, and found
Israel Commits To 31 Lockheed F-35 Aircraft, Cancels 6 Boeing-Built V-22 Ospreys Amid Increased Political Tensions
so will Israel get any Ospreys at all??
Israel Commits To 31 Lockheed F-35 Aircraft, Cancels 6 Boeing-Built V-22 Ospreys Amid Increased Political Tensions
so will Israel get any Ospreys at all??
Well, they may say it was due to cost...but I am not so sure.
Bibi is sending messages to this administration...and make no mistake, the Obama administration has strained relations with Israel in general, and Netanyahu specifically.
I believe that the next administration will quickly patch these issues up. It is, IMHO, more an issue with Obama's personal leanings with respect to the Middle east altogether.
I will go out on a limb right now and say that I believe before all os said and done that Israel will definitely end up with both the F-35 and the Osprey. both are just too capable and applicable to Israel's defense needs to not do so.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
not quite V22 News but same DNA
Why is this important?
The answer is that Bristow Helicopters is the Worlds #1 Civil rotary wing operator. It works Commercial Oil rig service and Heli-Ambulence as well as contracted Search and Rescue There Eastern Airways is a UK Commercial short Range and limited International.
The're interest may farther interest by other commercial helicopter, Business Air,and Governments both military and Civil for use of Tiltrotors like the AW609 Osprey's little sister
Why is this important?
The answer is that Bristow Helicopters is the Worlds #1 Civil rotary wing operator. It works Commercial Oil rig service and Heli-Ambulence as well as contracted Search and Rescue There Eastern Airways is a UK Commercial short Range and limited International.
The're interest may farther interest by other commercial helicopter, Business Air,and Governments both military and Civil for use of Tiltrotors like the AW609 Osprey's little sister
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Equation
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Amen.
This pic makes it all the clear why it is on a V-22 thread:
We are going to see a lot more similar derivatives over the coming years. Military and commercial.
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
I call AW609 "Osprey's little Sister", And I can back that moniker. AW609 was originally the BA609 a joint between Bell helicopter and Agusta Westland with bell as the lead. Bell used it's experience with both the V22 and more directly at that time the Bell XV5 the Direct ancestor of V22. Bell partnered with Agusta as Boeing was more interested in the Defense contracts then the civil. A few years back Agusta and Bell had a falling out as Agusta wanted to push civil rating for sales ( Particularly for The Italian Government who has shown a strong interest) well Bell seemed disinterested. Agusta Negotiated and bought the rights changing the name from BA609 to AW609. AW609 and V22 have a common pedigree and Heritage from the XV15 by Bell.
Hence the sister now as to little. ( Specs taken from Wiki)
Data from The International Directory of Civil Aircraft, 2003–2004, Jane's 2000, and the AgustaWestland BA609 profile
General characteristics[]
Hence the sister now as to little. ( Specs taken from Wiki)
Data from The International Directory of Civil Aircraft, 2003–2004, Jane's 2000, and the AgustaWestland BA609 profile
General characteristics[]
- Crew: 1 or 2
- Capacity: 6 to 9 passengers or 5,500 lb (2,500 kg) payload
- Length: 44 ft (13.4 m)
- Height: 16 ft 3 in (5.0 m) nacelles vertical; 21 ft 10 in (6.7 m) nacelles horizontal
- Wingspan: 38 ft 5 in (11.7 m)
- Width with rotors: 60 ft 5 in (18.4 m)
- Rotor diameter: 25 ft 10 in (7.9 m) each
- Rotor area: 981.75 sq ft (91.2 m2)
- : 10,483 lb (4,755 kg)
- Useful load: 5,500 lb (2,500 kg)
- Fuel: 2,480 lb (1,120 kg)
- Fuel burn: 1,000 lb (450 kg) per hour
- : 16,800 lb (7,600 kg)
- : 2 × turboshaft, 1,940 (1,447 kW) each
- : 275 kn (509 km/h; 316 mph)
- : 260 kn (482 km/h; 299 mph)
- : 750 nmi (1,390 km; 860 mi)
- : 25,000 ft (7,600 m), 5,000 ft (1,500 m)
- : 1,500 ft/min (7.6 m/s)
- Gravity load: +3.1, -1.0
- : 15.8 lb/sq ft (77.1 kg/m2)
Now There is one final note. AW609 will by Scale be a better tilt rotor then V22. Because Of Osprey's need to be carried on a LHA by the Marines The rotors and wings of V22 are shorter then optimum for Hover and fixed wing. AW609 was designed with out these compromises meaning her performance is better by scale and closer to a true tiltrotorAGUSTAWESTLAND INITIATES PRODUCTION PHASE OF AW609 TILTROTOR
Announcing expansion of AW609 TiltRotor program industrial operations, designating AgustaWestland Philadelphia as the first final assembly line
- The start of the production phase, in anticipation of FAA civil certification in 2017, is a major step forward for the program
- Integration of the global AW609 TiltRotor program into AgustaWestland Philadelphia operations represents an expansion of the site’s engineering and supply chain capabilities
- Company facilities in Italy, the United Kingdom and Poland will continue to play critical roles in the production of the commercial AW609 TiltRotor
Finmeccanica – AgustaWestland announced today that the AW609 TiltRotor program has achieved key milestones, initiating the production phase in anticipation of the first customer deliveries.
The company has expanded the AW609 TiltRotor program to include the AgustaWestland Philadelphia facility through its designation as the first final assembly line for the only civil tiltrotor in development to date. A second final assembly line is expected to be established at AgustaWestland’s Vergiate facility in Italy at a later date.
The involvement of AgustaWestland Philadelphia in the AW609 program represents the anticipated progression towards assembly and certification with the FAA as the main certification authority. The move signifies an expansion of the capabilities present at AgustaWestland Philadelphia, particularly in the engineering and supply chain functions.
AgustaWestland currently has two prototypes undergoing flight testing with a third in final assembly. The first prototype aircraft will continue flying at the AgustaWestland facility in Arlington, Texas in parallel with FAA Certification support work at AgustaWestland’s Philadelphia facility. The fourth prototype will be assembled in Philadelphia in 2016.
Full integration of the AW609 program into AgustaWestland Philadelphia’s operations is expected by third quarter 2015, and will include facility expansions as required to accommodate the AW609 TiltRotor engineering, certification, and aircraft assembly activities.
The AW609 aircraft have so far logged nearly 1,200 hours, with achievements over the past year that include successful completion of envelope expansion, autorotation trials, and improvements in aerodynamics and aircraft systems. Nearly 60 aircraft have been ordered to date for a variety of roles and missions, including offshore transportation, EMS and patient transfer, search and rescue, VIP, and parapublic operations.
BACKGROUND INFORMATION
AgustaWestland Philadelphia, AgustaWestland’s center of operations for production, sales, customer support and training across the Americas, operates out of a 275,000 square foot facility, on a 39-acre site at Northeast Philadelphia Airport in Pennsylvania. The facility also includes final assembly lines for the AW119Kx and AW139 helicopters, a parts supply depot for the Americas and a fully approved FAA and JAA repair station.
As announced in 2013, AgustaWestland Philadelphia will also serve as one of two worldwide production sites for the newest addition to the AW Family of products, the new-generation AW169. AgustaWestland Philadelphia also performs helicopter customization, has a delivery center for AW109 Power and GrandNew aircraft, and provides maintenance services for customer aircraft. Over 560 people are currently employed by AgustaWestland Philadelphia and this will increase as a result of this announcement and the expansion of other activities.
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