MastanKhan
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Hi,
Would you happen to know at what distance it has 90% kill ratio against a fighter sized aircraft.
J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread IV (Closed to posting)
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Hi,
Would you happen to know at what distance it has 90% kill ratio against a fighter sized aircraft.
Hi, according to Zhuo Yin, a PLAN expert on a CCTV program, modern day fighter jets normally fire active homing missiles in less than 50KM range. For targets beyond 100 KM, jet needs to be at very high level of energy and also awacs like E-3 and KJ-2000 is needed to help you guide missile. Not only that, he said that if air targets like jets have significant higher level of energy than the jet that is firing the missile (I assume he meant altitude and speed? not sure), then the missile could be easily evaded.
I'm just saying that those kind of numbers never happen in practice, so it's kind of pointless to mention them close to realistic. I've heard from people that 30 km is probably maximum effective range of the earlier AMRAAMs, so I'm assuming PL-12 and R-77 are probably in the same ballpark. AIM-120D could be a lot longer than that, but only the air force themselves have tested it out and have a good idea of the true effective range. Which I clearly have no access to.
asif iqbal
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I think that's the point here, the word "effective range"
A BVR could have a range of 120km but the effective range might be 1/4 of that or the zone of no escape would be like 40km
A BVR could have a range of 120km but the effective range might be 1/4 of that or the zone of no escape would be like 40km
vesicles
Colonel
Well, we haven't spotted the gun yet... The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
That's cus it uses a laser cannon for dog-fighting LOL joking
Well the F-35 Bravo and Charlie are packing a can of heat??? maybe that's the J-bird plan as well?
I would add that no self respecting fighter "should" come without an internal gun, its just never been right, but its been done way to much?? and yes I know why, and yes it is heavy, but it works so much better, kinda like a 45/70 Sharps Rifle, as opposed to a 12 Guage slug gun?
plawolf
Lieutenant General
The IFR probe bay was only recently positively proved because of the high quality fit and finish on the J20. Where it was only very visible when open.
I would be very surprised if it doesn't have an internal cannon.
The placement is either on the opposite cheek to the IFR bay (maybe on the lower side of the cheek to avoid flash blinding the pilot) or over the shoulder somewhere similar to the F22's gun placement.
We never really got any ultra-high definition pictures of the J20's back, so I think the best bet would be over the shoulder.
I fully concur with Wolfie on this, and I too will be very surprised if it does not have an internal cannon?
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