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Zool

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I don't know any details but I do not believe Australia has enough slots to provide new recruits out of sub school on site training on their subs which probably is the biggest problem with only one boat at sea at any given time.Another point is they still do not need that many personnel for at least another 5 years.
I do not know about other navies but for JMSDF you need to serve at least three years on a surface ship and obtain a written recommendation for two commanding officers to qualify as a successful applicant for sub school.

That's interesting about the JMSDF requiring a certain period of service on-board surface vessels before receiving a submarine posting. Is that for Officers only or Enlisted personnel as well?

I think for Australia, Operating Costs and the availability of personnel are it's biggest challenges, in the near term anyway. Hope to hear from Brumby & Lethe on recruiting. Are ADF ads making the rounds on TV and Radio?
 

Lethe

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Mr. Lethe, we are all struggling financially due to a number of global factors...

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As to the efficacy of this aircraft, I have NO doubt that it will prove quite capable, if we do our part? I hope you will give this some thought? [....] JSF is, and will remain the single most common, and important tool in the arsenal of our mutual defence. BRAT

I have no doubt that F-35 is (or will be) a highly capable aircraft that will serve Australia well. My criticisms of the program are largely concerned with how the selection and acquisition was handled in the early 2000s and since -- which in turn ties back to the broader skepticism of US-Australian relations that I referred to earlier. To put it bluntly, I believe that if a rigorous evaluation process had been followed in the mid-2000s, that JSF would not have made the cut, being assessed as too immature and subject to too much uncertainty. As such, instead of committing to JSF and then, when it became clear that the program was in trouble, being forced to extend the life of the existing Hornets, whilst also adopting an additional interim (and now permanent) platform in Super Hornet, the selection would probably have been for either Rafale or Typhoon, with deliveries beginning a couple of years ago to be completed by 2020. But of course, this is all water under the bridge now. From where we are now, in 2015, F-35 is the best choice and I have no doubt that it will serve Australia well.

Nor do I doubt that F-35B is a uniquely capable aircraft. My objections to acquiring it for Australia's LHDs stem from the argument that we do not need it for the roles the LHDs are envisioned to perform, or indeed any situation the ADF is likely to become involved in. The further argument is that we lack the robust capabilities such as airborne AEW required to make full use of a handful of F-35Bs, and that there are any number of potential acquisitions (such as point defence systems for the LHDs, more AWDs, new patrol craft, more helicopters, etc. etc) that should take precedence over F-35B.

Tying all of this together is a broader philosophical objection to how the ADF and Australia does business. The ADF is structured, and the Australian government so inclined, to act as USA's "little brother". My vision for the ADF involves a strategic vision that is far more constrained (and Australia-centric, with zero *** profanity removed *** being given about e.g. our ability to airlift stuff to Afghanistan) and desirous of more robust execution within that more limited domain. That is to say: instead of acquiring more fancy toys to do things that we shouldn't really be doing anyway, concentrate on improving our ability to perform the tasks that really matter. Australia has seven Chinook helicopters. Seven. It would be laughable if it weren't so tragic. The solution to the fact that most of Australia's capabilities are so threadbare (and therefore entirely unprepared for any serious conflict) isn't pining for some magical realignment of national spending priorities such that dollars come pouring from heaven, but rather through being more discerning about the kinds of capabilities we need, and those we do not. And F-35B is firmly in the 'not' category.
 
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Jeff Head

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the likelihood of Australia engaging in overseas activities requiring fixed wing air support without cooperative land basing and US support (with all that entails) is virtually nil.

If the Canberras ever find themselves wishing they could call on a handful of F-35Bs, then someone has royally ***** up somewhere.
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A Bar Brother

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I believe it's both enlisted as well as officers. Serving on a sub takes a special breed of people and you need to remove the chaff from the wheat first.

Sub-surface capability is one of the most secretive activities in the military. Submariners are not even allowed to make notes during training, meaning education is by word of mouth. My point is you need people who can be trusted to keep a secret. Submariners to have served on ships beforehand so the integrity of the crew is not questioned is the primary requirement. Everything else comes after that.
 
Growler news:
RAAF Aircrew Complete Basic Training in Growler
Five Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) aircrew personnel graduated from basic training at Electronic Attack Squadron (VAQ) 129, the U.S. Navy's EA-18G Growler Fleet Replacement Squadron, during a ceremony Feb. 27 at Naval Air Station (NAS) Whidbey Island.
The graduation marked a milestone in the RAAF-U.S. Navy partnership in airborne electronic attack as it was the first time RAAF aircrew completed basic training in the EA-18G.
The five RAAF aircrew will be assigned to U.S. Navy expeditionary units for approximately two years, deploying and operating the EA-18G under the Personnel Exchange Program.
One of the five graduates already deployed and is operating in the U.S. Pacific Fleet area of responsibility.
The Electronic Attack Wing, U.S. Pacific Fleet, located at NAS Whidbey Island, provides direct training support to VAQ-129.
"The graduation of the first crews marks a key milestone for our partnership," said Capt. Darryl Walker, commander, Electronic Attack Wing, U.S. Pacific Fleet. "The RAAF aircrew are truly outstanding in the air and have proven to be highly-capable officers. The RAAF personnel addition to our expeditionary force is a win-win for both countries."
RAAF Director, General Capability Planning, Air Commodore Mike Kitcher attended the graduation, travelling to NAS Whidbey Island to personally extend his appreciation and preside over the inaugural event. Kitcher also presented a RAAF Achievement Award to a graduating aircrew.
As part of the U.S. government's Foreign Military Sales program, the Australian government is purchasing 12 of the Boeing-made EA-18Gs. Australia is the first foreign customer of the Growler, with delivery expected in 2017. Training and integrating RAAF aircrew into U.S. Navy forces prior to acceptance is a critical component to ensuring that the RAAF have a lethal force.
"Training with CVWP (Electronic Attack Wing, U.S. Pacific Fleet) is essential to our ability to establish a credible AEA (airborne electronic attack) capability," said RAAF Wing Commander Paul Jarvis, acting director, EA-18G Growler Transition. "We've started early as there is an awful lot to learn between now and when we begin flying our own EA-18Gs in 2017. The support that we have had from the U.S. Navy, particularly from Capt. Walker and his team here at NAS Whidbey Island, has been truly magnificent."
As the RAAF transitions to the EA-18G, they are joining the ranks of its American allies in flying the world's most advanced electronic attack aircraft.
"Growler is a game changer for the Royal Australian Air Force and the whole Australian Defence Force, and we couldn't be more pleased with the reception and support of the entire Whidbey Island and the broader U.S. Navy team," said Kitcher.

"We are celebrating the RAAF achievements and the program's successes, but are excited to build on our partnership with the RAAF going forward," said Walker, regarding the RAAF's fleet integration following the graduation. "This is an exciting time as the community is growing in all directions, including 'down under.'"
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Naval Today said:
The Australian Government announced the Request for Tender (RFT) for the replacement of Pacific Patrol Boats under the Pacific Maritime Security Program, Project SEA3036 Phase 1.

This project represents a significant investment in Australian defence industry with the Australian-made patrol boats worth $594 million in addition to through life sustainment and personnel costs estimated at $1.38 billion over 30 years.

As part of Australia’s continued commitment to maritime security in the Pacific region, this project involves the construction in Australia of up to 21 steel-hulled replacement patrol vessels.

With the existing Pacific Patrol Boats soon approaching their end of service life, the Government has committed to replacing the fleet with new Australian made vessels. This will assist Pacific Island countries to continue to take an active part in securing their own extensive Exclusive Economic Zones.

The replacement vessels will be larger and more capable than the current fleet. They will also have greater seakeeping ability, habitability and endurance, and will be updated for the contemporary operating environment.

These vessels will also continue to be complemented by a comprehensive program of training, maintenance and operational support for regional partners.

Under the essential requirements of the RFT, the replacement vessels will be built in Australia, and be of steel hull construction.

Under the original program, Australia’s regional Defence Cooperation provided 22 Patrol Boats to 12 different nations from 1987 – 1997. This included ongoing maintenance, logistics support and training, as well as Royal Australian Navy (RAN) specialists for the countries where the vessels are based. Those nations, in turn, use them to support their local military, police and fisheries agencies.

The existing vessels:

Displace: 162 tons
Length: 103 ft.
Beam: 27 ft.
Draft: 6 ft.
Speed: 20 knots
Range: 2,900 miles at 12 knots
Compliment: 14-18
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2 x 12.7 mm machine guns
4 x 7.62 mm machine gun
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The nations who received vessels were:

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This new program is meant to replace those vessels whose service life was meant to be from 2002 to 2027.

The new vessels are to be larger, at 130 ft. long, and probably displace close to 200 tons. They will have better accommodations, about the same speed, a little longer range, a larger compliment (up to 23) and will also carry an embarked "interceptor" type boat. They will probably be similarly armed.

Nice program...and very helpful to the recipient nations who are small countries.
 

asif iqbal

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Aussies have a lot of cash to spend right now and they are investing well for the navy

Looks to me the trend will continue

At this rate the Aussies will also be a regional power after all they need it just look how big a country they are I think they waited a long time

A good time for Japanese to sell some naval equipment even UK is considering Japan patrol aircraft

Overall good progress
 
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