Ukraine Revolt/Civil War News, Reports, Data, etc.

Dannhill

Junior Member
How about juicy speculation? :D

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What's inside in the Debaltsevo cauldron? Why did the leaders of Europe rush to Russia?

Admittedly, when "the mousetrap" began to shut, everyone began to shout about the need... the need of what? Oh, about the need to follow the Minsk agreements..

The "Debaltsevo cauldron" was intended as a "Debaltsevo springboard" to start a victorious attack on DPR and LPR. In this regard, huge quantities of weapons, ammunition and food was brought to this area. This was confirmed by the militia after the capture of Uglegorsk. They got arsenals overflowing with weapons and warehouses with American food.

To foolishly lose such volume of weapons and "illegal American aid" for tens and hundreds of millions of dollars, and then to beg for the "ultimate weapon to defeat Putin" - this is the height of idiocy and helplessness of senior command.

Likely for this reason, to rehabilitate themselves in the eyes of sponsors, the Ukrainian offensive started today on all fronts at once, and with a simultaneous request for a truce...

It is a madhouse, and not a government and a General staff! They are so unpredictable, that honestly, it's laughable! And yet, there are theories that in the arsenals of Debaltsevo one will find phosphorous and cluster shells and bombs, banned by international conventions, but used by the Ukrainian armed forces during the shelling of cities and towns. This could be evidence of war crimes...

so what's new in eastern ukraine? fighting has resumed or had it never stopped?
 

pla101prc

Senior Member
headline today seems to be that there were TWO su-25 laying down some fire on ukr troops. pretty intense if you ask me.

but i think the real headline is that some pro-ukraine (but fairly well-informed) accounts on twitter conceded that part of m03 connecting debaltseve with artemovksy were occupied by rebels. they were however dislodged from their newly occupied position since but for them to come that close this road is as good as blocked.
 
Lone US voice on why it's not smart for US to arm Ukraine to broaden the conflict. Too long to copy so if you are interested do read it. It's good.

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What the article does not mention is that the proposal to arm Ukraine, as well as any other aid in many cases, is as much about US politicians fishing for federal budget/public money for their own special interest groups and constituents as it is about effective or efficient policy.
 

Miragedriver

Brigadier
Video shot in the ruins of AFU roadblock near the settlement Mius (Faschevka direction). Ukrainian security forces continue to hold it. 6/2/2015


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