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i think most of the newer fighter jets use UV MAWs
 

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Just to carry over from J-20 thread. An article on 14th institute talks about development of China's first AESA radar for fighter jet. It will be x-band based and won national awards in 2009/2010. From that, it seems like they flight tested it by 2009/2010. From all of that, it seems likes this radar is developed for J-10B/C although we have heard rumours on Chinese bbs that the first batch of J-10B we saw are using PESA radar. None of which is conclusive. So this AESA radar is either going to already be on the first batch of J-10B that we saw or on the second batch (J-10C as some calls it).

Technology wise, the article claimed that it has same level of technology as APG-77 on F-22. And that 14th Institute is using experience from developing this radar to develop J-20's radar. For the first part, I think it could just be talking about the usage of GaA T/R modules and the design of the radar rather than the actual power/capability of the radar.
 

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Does anyone else loose resolution when they upload to photobucket? Here it is the attached but when I upload to photobucket it becomes blurred

I don't know if you can see it as clear as me

I guess we will have to wait of it's correct but I call it 10691


Since no news came up lately I was playing around a bit with both these images and some additional information or thoughts about that possible assignment to the 2. Division and new shelters at possible bases:

At Suixi(6th Regiment) no preparations are observed however at Liuzhou (4th Regiment) we can observe 30 new shelters.

My problem now is that as far as I thought the former 2. AD / 4. AR at Liuzhou became in fact the 126. Brigade / Nanning Base in 2012 while the 9. AD / 27. AR became the "new" 4. AR.
So if the number Huitong identified is indeed a "10x3x" assigned to the 2. AD / 4. AR it will most likely go to Foshan replacing the older J-8DF / JJ-7A ... if it however will go to Liuzhou assigned to the 126. Brigade / Nanning Base, then the number should be "73x7" !

There's still something not fitting ....

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Just to carry over from J-20 thread. An article on 14th institute talks about development of China's first AESA radar for fighter jet. It will be x-band based and won national awards in 2009/2010. From that, it seems like they flight tested it by 2009/2010. From all of that, it seems likes this radar is developed for J-10B/C although we have heard rumours on Chinese bbs that the first batch of J-10B we saw are using PESA radar. None of which is conclusive. So this AESA radar is either going to already be on the first batch of J-10B that we saw or on the second batch (J-10C as some calls it).

Technology wise, the article claimed that it has same level of technology as APG-77 on F-22. And that 14th Institute is using experience from developing this radar to develop J-20's radar. For the first part, I think it could just be talking about the usage of GaA T/R modules and the design of the radar rather than the actual power/capability of the radar.
So in 2009/10 they developed an award winning AESA radar for the J-10B. What is then the reason for the first production batch in 2014 to have a PESA radar ?
 

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So in 2009/10 they developed an award winning AESA radar for the J-10B. What is then the reason for the first production batch in 2014 to have a PESA radar ?
We don't know if the first production batch has a PESA. Keep in mind that notion is tied strictly with the rumour of a J-10C, which I still find highly dubious.
 

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So in 2009/10 they developed an award winning AESA radar for the J-10B. What is then the reason for the first production batch in 2014 to have a PESA radar ?
We don't know for sure that's actually the case. But even if it is, it does take a while from when design is finished and it's flight tested on a radar testbed to be with on production aircraft. KLJ-1 was developed for several years before a J-8II variant started using it if I remember correctly.

my friend ask me why not bvr?
I'm not sure how they are related. BVR covers a lot of things and UV MAWs are just part of the avionics that detect incoming missiles.
 

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We don't know for sure that's actually the case. But even if it is, it does take a while from when design is finished and it's flight tested on a radar testbed to be with on production aircraft. KLJ-1 was developed for several years before a J-8II variant started using it if I remember correctly.


I'm not sure how they are related. BVR covers a lot of things and UV MAWs are just part of the avionics that detect incoming missiles.

There is a good chance that the "award winning radar" in the news lately is used on J-10B since the one used on J-16 is developed by a different department.
 
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