Chinese Engine Development

Mika Montero

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... ... continue on the theme of ...searching and deploying as many as one can find <Think-with-No-Box-type-Design-Engineers> to break this <ongoing-frustration-to-the-roof> bottleneck on China jet engine development


source:<Ms. Amrita Jayakumar ~ WashingtonPost> *** Lockheed Martin, Boeing and other aerospace companies have already embraced the concept of using 3-D printers to manufacture small parts. For example, Lockheed’s Juno spacecraft, which is on its way to explore Jupiter, relies on a set of 3-D printed brackets. Boeing has used several 3-D printed parts in its airplanes, including the Dreamliner. Northrop Grumman has a titanium component in its X-47B unmanned aircraft built for the Navy and 3-D printed parts in the F-35 fighter jet


source:<Mr. Michael Molitch-Hou ~ http://3dprintingindustry.com/> *** For instance, Lockheed Martin’s Brian Rosenberger explained that the company has been using AM since the 90’s. In fact, Lockheed Martin has long been taking advantage of Sciaky’s free form electron beam 3D printer that is capable of manufacturing huge titanium parts. Though their robotic arm, which welds metallic wire with an electron beam, can produce parts up to 22 feet long, the parts require post processing. In researching the 3D printing of F-35 jet parts, portions of the tail and wing, the company prints metal parts with an extra ¼” of material, which is then machined to fit the proper specifications


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Hopefully, all those calling the shot on all China jet engine development projects are wholeheartedly embracing 3-DP_Additive-Manufacturing technology, but more importantly those calling the shot in China staff their research teams with at minimum 10 <Think-with-No-Box-type> Design-Engineers, even though if they have shaky academic background. ** Why 10 ? Critical mass for brainstorming to counter the skepticism from the conservative-think-inside-the-box engineers.


source:<Mr. Michael Molitch-Hou ~ http://3dprintingindustry.com/> *** I approached a few more traditional companies — materials suppliers, laser cutting and CNC bureaus, and other exhibitor booths that weren’t quarantined in the 3D printing area of the showroom floor — about their interest in 3D printing. Did they work with 3D printing companies to develop composites? Did they provide quality control systems for manufacturers that used AM? And, more often than not, the answer was “no”. A majority of the booths I talked to didn’t seem to have an interest in the technology. I thought it strange to be indifferent to an emerging technology that could ... ...


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If those calling the shot in China jet engine development projects are the narrow-minded-conservative-type, adopting the attitude of dismissing the 3-DP_Additive-Manufacturing technology like those people quoted above, then we all are doomed to suffer this anxiety and ongoing-frustration-to-the-roof waiting for the breakthrough on China jet engine development or at the most only watching tiny-incremental progress until the dawn of 4-D objects populating the horizon.

Yes, it is not a typo ... ... 4-D objects with complex geometry that can move by themselves, and the 4-D objects its Future-is-Now, because it has been empowered and forced multiplied by Skylar Tibbits & his team by using 3-DP_Additive-Manufacturing tech.
I, personally hope that China jet engine development projects can be (or had been) empowered and forced multiplied by <Think-with-No-Box-type> Design-Engineers using 3-DP_Additive-Manufacturing tech


Source_1: <Ms. Amrita Jayakumar ~ WashingtonPost>:
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Source_2: <Mr. Michael Molitch-Hou ~ http://3dprintingindustry.com/>:
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Source_3: <Mr. Skylar Tibbits ~ smithsonianmag.com>:
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tphuang

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Mike Montero, please be more respectful here and not look for fight.
 

Mika Montero

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Thank you for your advice Mr tphuang.

My apology if I came across as disrespectful.
The truth is I am *not* disrespecting anyone, and I am *not* looking to flame nor fight anyone.

Perhaps, my natural writing style of contrasting 2 sides may have caused perception problems to some readers.
I will try very hard to tone it down, as much as I could.

If what I wrote is inaccurate or far from the truth or contradicting, then everybody is welcome to point it out to me,
and I will ponder the counter argument first, before posting my reaction.

In order not to clutter the thread, it is highly likely that I will not post my reaction if they are not significant.

All The Best,
MM


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tphuang

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Thank you for your advice Mr tphuang.

My apology if I came across as disrespectful.
The truth is I am *not* disrespecting anyone, and I am *not* looking to flame nor fight anyone.

Perhaps, my natural writing style of contrasting 2 sides may have caused perception problems to some readers.
I will try very hard to tone it down, as much as I could.

If what I wrote is inaccurate or far from the truth or contradicting, then everybody is welcome to point it out to me,
and I will ponder the counter argument first, before posting my reaction.

In order not to clutter the thread, it is highly likely that I will not post my reaction if they are not significant.

All The Best,
MM


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You need to have a few more posts before being allowed to send PM.

Generally speaking, I would advise all new comers to read up on the rules and the threads they are commenting on before aggressively stating opinion, so that you get a sense of where everyone is coming from and what kind of tone is appropriate for this forum. There are some misconceptions out there about Chinese military, so we encourage all new members to do so. Thanks
 

RedMercury

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If China were to master pseudopsychology, she would be absolutely unstoppable. But seriously, creativity is more a function of expertise than left brain right brain mumble jumble. Anyone can think up crazy ideas. It takes expert knowledge to mentally simulate those ideas to see if they work and are worth pursuing. Ideas are cheap. Feasible ideas are gold. It's been a bumper year (and airshow), but the recent early christmas presents are perhaps eroding the indomitable patience that PLA watchers have built up over the ... darker times. Let's wait and see.
 
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Mika Montero

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In terms of dreadfully choking bottleneck on engine development ... ...

Has this 3DP_AM technological applications been missing from development of Xian WS-15 or maybe not ... ??
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Could some1 search the Chinese forums and enlighten me on the application of 3DP_AM technology on the Chinese engine development process ?? ~ Many thanks in advance


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... ... US propulsion companies have already invested heavily in the technology on the commercial side of
their businesses. For example, United Technologies' Pratt & Whitney engines unit has been working
with additive manufacturing techniques for 25 years, according to Lynn Gambill, the unit's chief
engineer for manufacturing engineering and global services.

"We were one of the first adopters on the plastic side," Gambill told IHS Jane's . The company now
uses plastics, polymers and metal-titanium and nickel-based alloys in additive applications. Gambill
said it is "likely" that the company will someday use printed parts on the F135 turbojet engine it
builds for the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter. ... ...
 

latenlazy

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In terms of dreadfully choking bottleneck on engine development ... ...

Has this 3DP_AM technological applications been missing from development of Xian WS-15 or maybe not ... ??
:confused:

Could some1 search the Chinese forums and enlighten me on the application of 3DP_AM technology on the Chinese engine development process ?? ~ Many thanks in advance


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Unlikely it'd be missing since China basically paraded how they were using 3D printing in aerospace anywhere they could about two years ago.
 

Engineer

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In terms of dreadfully choking bottleneck on engine development ... ...

Has this 3DP_AM technological applications been missing from development of Xian WS-15 or maybe not ... ??
:confused:

Could some1 search the Chinese forums and enlighten me on the application of 3DP_AM technology on the Chinese engine development process ?? ~ Many thanks in advance


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This is not necessary related to the WS-15, but there is a photo showing a turbine disk, with blades an all, manufactured using addative manufacturing technology.
 
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