China's SCS Strategy Thread

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Intentional or not the Jianghu-V has a weight of 1600 to 1900 tons in her current state that is roughly the same weight as the ex-Serra Madre it placed the Philippine marines on notice as it means that if the PRC got a opening they could easily remove her hulk and occupy the location.
 

chuck731

Banned Idiot
lol, it's a real Chinese logic (magic) at work here!

Filipino wreck grounded on the reef with marines living there for 15 years
->
Deny any possibility for them to build any permanent constructions (we don't have problems when we do it ourselves and ignore others)
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Deny transportation to the wreck (after all they might start building there something!)
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Wait for the wreck to wither, corrode and wash away
->
STATUS QUO MAINTAINED!


That would be status quo ante maintained. Ante, there were no wrecks on the reef.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Philippines rejects Chinese demand to remove ship
Mar. 14, 2014 - 10:54AM |

By Teresa Cerojano
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Analysis: China backs Manila Into corner; limited options for U.S.
MANILA, PHILIPPINES — The Philippines on Friday rejected a Chinese demand that it remove a grounded navy ship from a disputed shoal in the South China Sea, saying the vessel is a permanent government outpost.

China’s coast guard prevented two Philippine civilian vessels from delivering supplies to the rusting ship at Second Thomas Shoal on Sunday, escalating tensions in the area. The Philippines and the U.S. have called Beijing’s action provocative. The shoal is called Ayungin in the Philippines and Ren’ai Reef in China.

The ship “was placed in Ayungin Shoal in 1999 to serve as a permanent Philippine government installation in response to China’s illegal occupation of Mischief Reef in 1995,” Department of Foreign Affairs spokesman Raul Hernandez said in a statement Friday. Mischief Reef is another Philippine-claimed outcropping in the disputed Spratly islands in the South China Sea.

“The Philippines reiterates that Ayungin Shoal is part of its continental shelf over which the Philippines has sovereign rights and jurisdiction,” Hernandez said.

Philippine officials have previously said the military hospital ship ran aground in 1999 on the shallow coral reef and could not be removed because of a lack of funds and capability. Friday’s statement was the first acknowledgement that the ship was deliberately sent to the shoal as a government outpost.

China claims virtually the entire South China Sea, resource-rich waters where other neighboring nations also have claims.

On Thursday, a Philippine security official said the navy would send supplies on other vessels to the soldiers stationed on the grounded ship because the men were running short of food and water. The official, who did not want to be identified because he was not authorized to discuss the matter with the media, did not say when the supplies would be dispatched.

He said a small navy plane had dropped several days’ worth of drinking water to the troops.

“It’s not that we’re trying to court China’s ire,” he said. “We do not want to starve our people to death.”
Finally Honesty!
Situation Summery.
The PRC thinks it's the Bank.
The Philippines believes it owns the property.
The Shoal is the land it Claims,
The Ol'57 is a Condemned building,
The Philippine Marines are Squatters.
The Chinese Coast Guard is the Demolitions Crew.
situation The opening act of A hitch Hikers guide to the galaxy.
Marines Occupy Ol'57, Philippines says it still owns property, PRC wants says it foreclosed, Coast Guard is waiting for first opportunity to demolish ( Drag wreck off the Shoal) If the Squatters leave even to go out for coffee the Demo crew, And China has it's guards blockade the Shoal preventing any return well China tows in a fortified structure.
 

joshuatree

Captain
Switching gears, with this whole MH370 incident and watching nations scramble their assets for the SAR, it seems China should turn Woody Island and the Paracels into their Diego Garcia. I think 528 Mianyang was one of the first to arrive on scene for the Chinese SAR because it happened to be at Woody Island at the time.
 

Blitzo

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I mean, he isn't wrong, if we consider the definition of the word itself. Because territorial integrity is a strong part of both China's political and social fabric.

The important part is whether one is eager to use military force or not, and in China's case, I'd say they vastly prefer a peaceful settlement. I suppose it is in that domain where I disagree with admiral Harris. Also is think he and china have differing opinions as to the legality of said territorial losses in the first place.

And comparisons between the SCS and Crimea are like apples and oranges. So all in all, it is a rather fear mongering statement with little substance.
 

ManilaBoy45

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Philippines Supply Ship Evades Chinese Blockade

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By JIM GOMEZ Associated Press
Posted: 03/29/2014 03:00:55 AM MDT | Updated: about 14 hours ago

SECOND THOMAS SHOAL—A Philippine government ship slipped past a Chinese coast guard blockade Saturday and brought food and fresh troops to a marooned navy ship used as a base by Filipino troops to bolster the country's territorial claims in the disputed South China Sea.The incident was witnessed by journalists who were invited by the Philippines military to accompany the resupply mission.It was a rare close-up look at the tensions in the waters and the determination of both sides to press their claims. China's growing assertiveness is alarming smaller nations that have competing territorial claims and worrying the United States, which is neutral in the disputes but jockeying for influence with Beijing in the region.

Around one hour away from Second Thomas Shoal, where the detachment is based, a Chinese coast guard ship marked "1141" twice crossed the bow of the smaller Philippine vessel in an attempt to stop it from proceeding. Another tailed the Filipino boat.The Chinese radioed the Filipinos, telling them to stop. "You will take full responsibility for the consequences of your action," the voice said in English."This is the Republic of the Philippines," Philippine navy Lt. Ferdinand Gato, who was in charge of the supply mission, replied. "We are here to provision the troops."The marines on board the supply boat waved the "V" for peace sign toward the Chinese vessel. The Filipino captain maneuvered his vessel to shallow waters where the Chinese ships couldn't sail to reach the marooned vessel, BRP Sierra Madre, which has become an awkward symbol of Philippine sovereignty in the remote offshore territory.

The cat-and-mouse-like confrontation was witnessed by Associated Press journalists and more than a dozen other media members who were allowed by the Philippine military to board the government vessel to show what the Manila government has said was "China's bullying" in the disputed waters.As they approached the shoal, one of the marines raised the Philippine flag on the supply ship. Once inside the shoal, the marines and the crew applauded and exchanged high-fives. Journalists said a plane with U.S. Navy markings also flew above the marooned ship."Our policy is maximum tolerance," Gato said. "I will not let them stop us because our marines will starve."The supply ship carried about 10 tons of food, including rice and canned goods, and water, Gato said. The provisions were placed in sacks and transferred to the marooned ship using ropes pulled with pulleys. The two vessels were surrounded by the calm turquoise waters of the shoal under the blazing sun.
 
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ManilaBoy45

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Philippine Marines deployed on the Philippine Navy ship LT 57 Sierra Madre practice the "relieving the watch" ceremony after the Philippine Government vessel AM700 successfully docked beside it off Second Thomas Shoal, locally known as Ayungin Shoal, Saturday, March 29, 2014 off South China Sea on the West Philippine Sea.

(Gallery of the 2nd Thomas Shoal March 29th Incident)

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