Yuan Class AIP & Kilo Submarine Thread

hmmwv

Junior Member
Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

do you know which Yuan this is? I think I've seen these photos from a while ago.

Not too old, December I think. It was a Yuan at Wusong, transiting through the base after delivery. Probably still going through acceptance crew training and final handover from techs from the yard.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Looks like deal is done and financing negotiations are set for this year

Nothing is better than Janes for news I think 2014 will be a great year for PN

China, Pakistan set for submarine deal by end of year, say officials

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asif iqbal

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Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

China, Pakistan set for submarine deal by end of year, say officials



Pakistan could sign a deal to buy up to six submarines from China before the end of 2014, senior Pakistani government officials have told IHS Jane's .

A Pakistani government minister revealed in March 2011 that China had offered to sell up to six submarines to Pakistan although he did not specify details of the boats on offer. Western officials in Islamabad suggest that China's subsequent international marketing of the 'S20' or Yuan-class diesel-electric submarine (SSK) suggests it could be a potential option for Pakistan.

A senior Pakistani government official told IHS Jane's that "the technical details are almost done. The present discussions are mainly about the financing details". A second Pakistani government official confirmed that "the contract is in an advanced stage and discussions will not linger on for too long. Realistically, we should have a deal by end 2014".

The submarine contract would further cement China's rapidly growing role as the main supplier of military hardware to Pakistan's armed forces and fill an important gap in Pakistan Navy (PN) capabilities. The PN is known to operate five French submarines: three Agosta 90B (Khalid-class) submarines purchased in the 1990s and two ageing Agosta 70 (Hashmat-class) boats dating from the late 1970s. In 2009, the PN sought to purchase three German-built Type 214 submarines, but the plan was put on hold due to costs that at the time were reported to be in excess of USD2 billion.

Recent Sino-Pakistan contracts of potential interest to Islamabad's strategic interests include China's agreement to provide two large civil nuclear reactors to be based close to Karachi. According to Pakistani officials China's Eximbank agreed to extend a USD6.5 billion loan for the two reactors.

Additionally, the Sino-Pakistani-built JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft is reportedly the subject of talks between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia: a potential deal that Western officials said would not be discussed without Beijing's explicit consent.

COMMENT
A Sino-Pakistan submarine contract will be closely watched by Western officials for any signs that may suggest progression towards nuclear-powered boats. Pakistan's defence planners consider the absence of such a platform - which they would eventually want to see armed with submarine-launched nuclear ballistic missiles - as major disadvantage in a potential conflict with India.

However, Western officials believe China will hesitate to extend such advanced technology to Pakistan given the potential for a harsh reaction from the United States and its allies.
 

Blackstone

Brigadier
Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

Interesting Pakistan buys Yuans while Bangladesh (with a growing economy) buys Mings.
 

FarkTypeSoldier

Junior Member
Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

China, Pakistan set for submarine deal by end of year, say officials



Pakistan could sign a deal to buy up to six submarines from China before the end of 2014, senior Pakistani government officials have told IHS Jane's .

A Pakistani government minister revealed in March 2011 that China had offered to sell up to six submarines to Pakistan although he did not specify details of the boats on offer. Western officials in Islamabad suggest that China's subsequent international marketing of the 'S20' or Yuan-class diesel-electric submarine (SSK) suggests it could be a potential option for Pakistan.

A senior Pakistani government official told IHS Jane's that "the technical details are almost done. The present discussions are mainly about the financing details". A second Pakistani government official confirmed that "the contract is in an advanced stage and discussions will not linger on for too long. Realistically, we should have a deal by end 2014".

The submarine contract would further cement China's rapidly growing role as the main supplier of military hardware to Pakistan's armed forces and fill an important gap in Pakistan Navy (PN) capabilities. The PN is known to operate five French submarines: three Agosta 90B (Khalid-class) submarines purchased in the 1990s and two ageing Agosta 70 (Hashmat-class) boats dating from the late 1970s. In 2009, the PN sought to purchase three German-built Type 214 submarines, but the plan was put on hold due to costs that at the time were reported to be in excess of USD2 billion.

Recent Sino-Pakistan contracts of potential interest to Islamabad's strategic interests include China's agreement to provide two large civil nuclear reactors to be based close to Karachi. According to Pakistani officials China's Eximbank agreed to extend a USD6.5 billion loan for the two reactors.

Additionally, the Sino-Pakistani-built JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft is reportedly the subject of talks between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia: a potential deal that Western officials said would not be discussed without Beijing's explicit consent.

COMMENT
A Sino-Pakistan submarine contract will be closely watched by Western officials for any signs that may suggest progression towards nuclear-powered boats. Pakistan's defence planners consider the absence of such a platform - which they would eventually want to see armed with submarine-launched nuclear ballistic missiles - as major disadvantage in a potential conflict with India.

However, Western officials believe China will hesitate to extend such advanced technology to Pakistan given the potential for a harsh reaction from the United States and its allies.


I don't see any reasons why China wouldn't sell or Pakistan wouldn't buy.

Russia has been selling newer Kilos to Indian Navy as well as loaned out a SSBN to IN.

Pakistan needs these subs as a deterrence in hostile times.
 

A.Man

Major
Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

A Unidentified Submarine Seen in Wuhan Shipyard

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Totoro

Major
VIP Professional
Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

yuan #13? or one of the newer ones back to shipyard for some shakedown tinkering?
 

no_name

Colonel
Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

New variant of Yuan class? The shape of the sail looks different to previous Yuans.

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by78

General
Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

An alleged close-up of the new SSK, but I have my doubts:

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