East China Sea Air Defense ID Zone

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xiabonan

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well abenomics pretty much means that japan is keeping things afloat by depreciating their own currency. they are trading long term prosperity for short term growth. (people anticipate inflation so they spend now) however wages are unlikely to keep up with inflation if they keep this going so they are essentially siphoning wealth from their future selves. perhaps they are anticipating becoming a net exporter again once the yen nosedives?

in the end, everyone wants to make money, i only wish japan and china can figure out a way to make money together instead of squabbling over territorial influence like this. however in the end i still believe that china is in the right on this claim, even if it may increase volatility in the region. i say this not just because i'm chinese.

japan is still punching above its weight class right now as a result of its colonialist past and because of american support. china on the other hand has a proportionately smaller influence than japan because of its history at the receiving end of colonialism and political antagonism from the u.s.
purely for the sake of equity i'd say that japanese influence deserves to be reduced while an increase in china's influence is long overdue.

Sino-Japan relationship is somewhat similar to Sino-American relationship. Both sides need the other for economic growth but there's so much hatred/resentment/unwillingness going on that ultimately hinders the progress. But I do believe that cooperation is the future. I'm really looking forward to the China-Japan-South Korea Free Trade Zone. That will be a huge milestone.
 

Rutim

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Let me tell you something, if today there's still one thing that is capable of uniting the vast majority of Chinese people, that is matters regarding Japan. Don't, ever, underestimate that.
Well, I can only agree with you on that matter. This card is regulary played by Chinese government. But you can say it's the same with almost every nation around China. May it be India, Japan, Russia, South Korea, Vietnam, Philippines or US. It only takes a machine called mass media going in the 'right' direction to get protest against any of those around whole China.

Indeed, you're right in many points about this matters.
 
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xiabonan

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Well, I can only agree with you on that matter. This card is regulary played by Chinese government. But you can say it's the same with almost every nation around China. May it be India, Japan, Russia, South Korea, Vietnam, Philippines or US. It only takes a machine called mass media going in the 'right' direction to get protest against any of those around whole China.

Indeed, you're right in many points about this matters.

No, for Japan, it's a different idea altogether. Of course the media is still involved, but for every neighbouring country the Chinese had a different level of feelings. Japan however, is in a league of its own due to historical reasons. I'll stop here because this is getting too far. This thread is about East China Sea ADIZ.
 

A.Man

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Well, I can only agree with you on that matter. This card is regulary played by Chinese government. But you can say it's the same with almost every nation around China. May it be India, Japan, Russia, South Korea, Vietnam, Philippines or US. It only takes a machine called mass media going in the 'right' direction to get protest against any of those around whole China.

Indeed, you're right in many points about this matters.

Dude, welcome back on earth. You only traveled 13.0% of the light speed. We are 30 years older than you now. What a lucky man!
 

SamuraiBlue

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Let me tell you something, if today there's still one thing that is capable of uniting the vast majority of Chinese people, that is matters regarding Japan. Don't, ever, underestimate that. I left China at the age of 13 and has been receiving education in Singapore since then, and frankly speaking my sentiments towards Japan are nowhere as strong as those who grew up till adulthood in China. I've met many friendly Japanese people and I love many things about Japan and its culture and have always wanted to travel there, but if one day war ever breaks out between the two countries, even if we're at fault, I'll give my everything including my life to fight it.

I doubt it especially when they have to make a cover story for the Forbidden City terrorist attack faking it as if the Uyghur were involved.
No way could the Uyghur had pulled it off with no money and constantly being watched by the secret police.

The Chinese are beginning to splinter trying to achieve their own goal exterminating anything and everything that passes their way which ultimately leads to civil war.
 

kroko

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I doubt it especially when they have to make a cover story for the Forbidden City terrorist attack faking it as if the Uyghur were involved.
No way could the Uyghur had pulled it off with no money and constantly being watched by the secret police.

The Chinese are beginning to splinter trying to achieve their own goal exterminating anything and everything that passes their way which ultimately leads to civil war.

I see that this thread will get locked soon.
 

A.Man

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I doubt it especially when they have to make a cover story for the Forbidden City terrorist attack faking it as if the Uyghur were involved.
No way could the Uyghur had pulled it off with no money and constantly being watched by the secret police.

The Chinese are beginning to splinter trying to achieve their own goal exterminating anything and everything that passes their way which ultimately leads to civil war.

Ahha, we have also been fighting more than few hundred years to send our Japanese friends back to where they came from.
 

MiG-29

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The US forces answer to the US, they won't interdict on Japan's behalf because 1. it would undermine Japanese sovereignty, and 2. directly involve themselves in a bilateral dispute, superseding Japanese authority themselves and become directly engaged vis-a-vis China. The American forces will sit and watch, and that's all they will do unless someone shoots first and even then they will have to contend with congressional thumb twiddling before rushing head long into anything.

the news today

In a statement, the Japanese Foreign Ministry said, “The airspace the Chinese side established today is totally unacceptable and extremely regrettable as it includes the Japanese territorial airspace over the Senkaku Islands, an inherent territory of Japan.

“Unilaterally establishing such airspace and restricting flights in the area is extremely dangerous as it may lead to miscalculation in the area,” the statement said.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel expressed strong concern over the Chinese decision. “We view this development as a destabilizing attempt to alter the status quo in the region. This unilateral action increases the risk of misunderstanding and miscalculations,” Hagel said in a statement Saturday. “This announcment by the People’s Republic of China will not in any way change how the United States conducts military operations in the region.”



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xiabonan

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the news today

In a statement, the Japanese Foreign Ministry said, “The airspace the Chinese side established today is totally unacceptable and extremely regrettable as it includes the Japanese territorial airspace over the Senkaku Islands, an inherent territory of Japan.

“Unilaterally establishing such airspace and restricting flights in the area is extremely dangerous as it may lead to miscalculation in the area,” the statement said.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel expressed strong concern over the Chinese decision. “We view this development as a destabilizing attempt to alter the status quo in the region. This unilateral action increases the risk of misunderstanding and miscalculations,” Hagel said in a statement Saturday. “This announcment by the People’s Republic of China will not in any way change how the United States conducts military operations in the region.”



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"……a destabilizing attempt to alter the status quo in the region. This unilateral action increases the risk of misunderstanding and miscalculations……“ Brilliantly said Americans!!! This is exactly what Japan did by arresting the captain and "buying" the island~
 

A.Man

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the news today

In a statement, the Japanese Foreign Ministry said, “The airspace the Chinese side established today is totally unacceptable and extremely regrettable as it includes the Japanese territorial airspace over the Senkaku Islands, an inherent territory of Japan.

“Unilaterally establishing such airspace and restricting flights in the area is extremely dangerous as it may lead to miscalculation in the area,” the statement said.

U.S. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel expressed strong concern over the Chinese decision. “We view this development as a destabilizing attempt to alter the status quo in the region. This unilateral action increases the risk of misunderstanding and miscalculations,” Hagel said in a statement Saturday. “This announcment by the People’s Republic of China will not in any way change how the United States conducts military operations in the region.”



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