PLAN Type 035/039/091/092 Submarine Thread

SinoSoldier

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Re: PLAN submarines Thread II

The captain who is charge in the type 094 SSBN,type 093A SSN and type 095 SSN sea trial.
A little correction,Captain Hu and his group got the rewards for the type 094 SSBN sea trial in 2002,type 093A SSN test in 2008,and type 095 SSN sea trial in 2013,perfect match the development Of the PLAN SSN/SSBN.
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Again, that article does not mention the Type 095.
 

clone7803

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The article that was posted makes no mention of the new SSGN and the trials were for the improved Type 093.

Why the SSGN? Here we are talking about Capt. Hu and his group were rewarded for the type 095 SSN test in 2013.The SSGN mostlikely has a name type 096.Again I clearly said their group already got the reward in 2008 for the type 093A sea trial.
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SinoSoldier

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Why the SSGN? Here we are talking about Capt. Hu and his group were rewarded for the type 095 SSN test in 2013.The SSGN mostlikely has a name type 096.Again I clearly said their group already got the reward in 2008 for the type 093A sea trial.
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Look, the submarine crew and the reward thing is a nice theory, but the reports, as mentioned before, does not mention the 095.
 

clone7803

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Again, that article does not mention the Type 095.

The point here is not the name,but the track record of what those guys were,are and will do.If you follow their record,you will see they are the best sub operators in the PLAN and the SSF.They got involved the PLAN nuclear sub sea trials since 2002 and were rewarded both as a group and as a single captain for several times.So the 2013 reward is a clear indication that the new generation SSN(type 095) is in the sea.Combained with the recent Tang's speech,we had two strong official envidences that the type 095 SSN is not too far from us.
 

tphuang

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The division responsible for Chinese nuclear submarine trials has been awarded a First Class Merit by the president. Could this mean that China's submarine program is moving a lot faster?

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I think we've seen the Type 094 project winning first class merit before, but that was science and technology award, so for the developer of the project. They won the year after J-10 won it, which shows I think 094 does more of less match the expectations of PLAN. This division probably won it for the completion of sea trials of Type 094 and test launch of JL-2 or something along that lines. This signals Type 094 is now active.

The link you posted above is a solid evidence that the type 095 SSN at least had finished its first round sea trials.
Last time the unit 92730 was rewarded for the reason in the excellent performence of the type 094 SSBN sea trial in 2002,then in 2010 they got the reward again for the type 093A SSN test.Remember, the unit 92730 is the best submarine test group in the PLAN and had taken part in all the PLAN SSN test,the 90 group captain has a higher rank than the normal PLAN SSN captains.

《瞭望东方周刊》记者山旭 | 北京报道

2013年8月下旬,中央军委主席习近平签署通令,给2个单位、4名个人记功。根据公开报道,这也是习近平当选中央军委主席后,第二次签署通令嘉奖立功的解放军官兵。

根据军队媒体对立功者的报道,此次记功的2个单位和4名个人除具有爱岗敬业、艰苦奋斗的传统军队精神外,其工作领域大多涉及尖端装备,其中有2个单位和2名个人来自海军。

新型潜艇立功

解放军军功每年评定一次,但并非全部以通令的形式向全军发布。

此次通令记功的2个单位及立功原因是:在单位建设取得突出成绩和完成任务中作出突出贡献的92730部队90分队记一等功,91550部队记二等功。

根据军队媒体和地方媒体的报道可以发现,92730部队是驻扎在三亚的海军南海舰队下属部队。2010年中国军网曾刊载了一组“南海舰队92730部队某舰艇部队圆满完成某重大任务凯旋”的图片报道,反映了它返抵三亚的情况。

关于92730部队90分队,则可以在2008年9月《解放军报》关于“总政治部通报表彰对第九届全军学习成才标兵、学习成才先进个人和人才培养先进单位”的报道以及相关先进人物报道中有所了解。

时任92730部队90分队分队长胡中明在这一届全军学习成才标兵名单中名列第一。

而在同年对胡中明的先进人物报道中可以看到,当时他任新型潜艇艇长、大校军衔,曾参加了海军首次环球航行,多次参加重大演习和演练任务。

这种新型潜艇在2004年2月服役,“与过去的老装备相比,新型潜艇无论是制造材料、装备构成,还是武器装备性能、自动化程度,均有了质的飞跃”。它的另一个特征是吨位大,导致操纵难度加大。

引人注意的是,这位92730部队90分队分队长具有大校军衔。而其他被报道过的海军潜艇艇长则多为中校。

其实,作为解放军海军主力的导弹驱逐舰舰长也基本为上校军衔,实习舰长有中校军衔,公开报道中虽然有个别大校军衔,但较为少见。

以同样参加2002年海军首次环球航行的“青岛号”导弹驱逐舰为例,时任舰长李玉杰“是我军第一代从学生官培养起来的知识型舰长,是我军第一位‘挑战三大洋、远航练精兵’的新型舰长,是我国第一位圆满完成环球航行任务的驱逐舰舰长”,他当时就是海军上校。

目前海军舰艇长为大校军衔的,还有中国第一艘航空母舰“辽宁号”舰长张峥和政委梅文。这艘航空母舰为正师编制。

分析人士推测,即使存在高配情况, 92730部队90分队也很可能是海军最强大的新型潜艇。

2012年12月,习近平视察海军驻三亚部队时,就曾进入新型潜艇进行视察。这代表着解放军已在这里设立了相对完善的潜艇基地

而查询10年以来的公开通令记功,还没有海军的分队级、即单个舰艇受到通令记一等功的嘉奖。以“在单位建设取得突出成绩”荣立一等功,显示了这艘潜艇在军事斗争准备中取得重大成果。

关于胡中明的报道还说,两年内他累计封舱出海290余天,也就是平均每年有近一半时间用于海上训练、执行任务,由此也可以看到海军潜艇部队的成长艰辛。


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First thing, don't treat everything out of xinhuanet as official news when it comes to PLA. It's not. Just looking at the language used here, does that look like an official piece to you or something a guy on Chinese bbs put together? That is a matter of opinion, but I would say definitely not the former. all the bolded part here are opinions of the writer, not official news.

no satellite photos verify anything you are saying here. Type 094 definitely did not start sea trials in 2002. First type 093 was launch around that time. There was no nuclear submarine that joined service in 2004.

The point here is not the name,but the track record of what those guys were,are and will do.If you follow their record,you will see they are the best sub operators in the PLAN and the SSF.They got involved the PLAN nuclear sub sea trials since 2002 and were rewarded both as a group and as a single captain for several times.So the 2013 reward is a clear indication that the new generation SSN(type 095) is in the sea.Combained with the recent Tang's speech,we had two strong official envidences that the type 095 SSN is not too far from us.
they could've been doing sea trials for nuclear submarine multiple times. It could be anything, but you keep insisting it must be these new projects that you are dreaming about, when there is no evidence that Type 095 has even been launched.
 

franco-russe

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Unit 92730 is 2 Submarine Base Yulin.

It has what is possibly the only operational Type 094, 409, which arrived in 2008, as well as the two Type 093 (407 and 408), arrived 2007-08.
 

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this really hasn't made news anywhere yet.
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except on this Russian blog and Chinese bbs.
Not sure how believable this is, but it is claimed here that China is selling 2 636s to Bangladesh.
 

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PLA Navy to modify purchased Lada-class submarines with Russia

What do you guys think about this news? Another Su-35 song?


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PLA Navy to modify purchased Lada-class submarines with Russia

What do you guys think about this news? Another Su-35 song?


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if they are going to be so extensively refitted and modified even with Chinese engines why buy them in the first place?

another Su-35 deal, China likes to keep advertising these sales just to play down its own advancements which fits well with the foreign policy and the image they want to protray, so everyone still thinks, "oh yeah Chinese still are inferior to Russia so thats why they still buy Russian equipment, yeah no China isnt a threat" when infact the better knowledge ones who exactly know where China sits in terms of military technology
 

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if they are going to be so extensively refitted and modified even with Chinese engines why buy them in the first place?

another Su-35 deal, China likes to keep advertising these sales just to play down its own advancements which fits well with the foreign policy and the image they want to protray, so everyone still thinks, "oh yeah Chinese still are inferior to Russia so thats why they still buy Russian equipment, yeah no China isnt a threat" when infact the better knowledge ones who exactly know where China sits in terms of military technology

Let's keep Su-35 in the appropriate thread. The Amur deal is under discussion right now. Amur has a lot of engine related issues. Even if it doesn't, China prefers its own propulsion system over the Russian ones. And it also wants to install its own electronics and weapons. But there is a lot about the single hull design for shallow waters that China can learn from
 
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