056 class FFL/corvette

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Blitzo

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It's amazing how quickly the industry has pumped out these 056s. Merely the number that are in the water right now could satisfy the OPV needs of a couple of medium sized navies. A squadron of these backed up by an 054A would also be enough to challenge the naval supremacy of a good few of the ASEAN countries.

Mass production can be scary sometimes.
 

franco-russe

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Here's what I have for the Type 056 builds to date...can anyone help me out in filling it out further, or correcting any errors?

Franco?

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It looks generally allright, apart from some spelling errors: Shipyard names should be Huangpu and Liaonan, ship names BENGBU and QINZHOU.

I have Liaonan Hull 3 launched in June, but I am not sure. Escobar has Hull 2 as a returnee at the yard, Hulls 3 and 4 in the drydock (I am not sure I see more than one) and Hull 5 as sections in the assembly area.

The latter is really the most interesting, as it was expected that the initial order was for four. Are they already into the second series of 20?

Liaonan (Navy Yard 4810) has previously built Type 022 as well as the one-off Type 911 degaussing ship Dong Qin 870 in 2011 – and probably other auxiliaries as well.
 

Nordlys

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If we look at the latest pictures from Liaonan (post #1701), you can see that there are two ships in the drydock (buildingdock), LN#3 and #4! And it looks like they will be launched at the same time, they looks both to be ready for launch soon.

The pictures of the suposed hull #5... i think the modules looks too big for a 056A corvette :confused: , but hard to tell since we dont see it in the same picture as 581!
 

franco-russe

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Try as I may, I still see only one in the building dock.

A good reference is the latest GE update on 20 March. There you clearly see two hulls (3 and 4) in the dock and Hull 3 fitting out, bows north.
 

Nordlys

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Franco!
It is hidden behind the nearest crane and the scaffolding. But you can see the radar on the mainmast inbetween the "legs" of the crane and backside of the chimney..

On CDF there is a picture (post#30 from 4 July), where you see it clearer!
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i.e.

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I think you got it backward. Chinese navy doctrine in 1980 is brown water navy meaning they only adjunct to the army and their doctrine called for coastal defense So that is why they don't have long duration cruise and not because of the quality of the ship.

In that respect they fulfill their design requirement Only in the late 90 when Admiral Li Huaging come with first island and 2nd island chain did they develop doctrine for long range patrol and therefore the requirement for ship that can endure long range patrol.

So in that respect that ship meet their intended design requirement and since as you say they were involved in actual combat on the sea and come out from it in one piece I think that alone is testament to the ruggedness of that ship

No, navy was always independent organization from its inception.

strategic wise (and some times operationally) it may be playing 2nd fiddle for the army true.

the fleet building was always driven by resource expediency

the first true fleet building program (-051 destroyer/ Replenisher/ Sub Rescure/ Ocean tugs) was laid down as a piggy back of the DF-5 ICBM program needs. although not a minority in PLAN secretly feels that thats a good opportunity to increase the range and capability of PLAN, long the junior partner in PLA organization.

PLAN strategy was driven more by lack of resources and technology then some fundamental lack of will to expand into blue water operations.
 

i.e.

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now if they can laid down and build 052D in this rate all over china.

this would be required as a minimum to challenge the USN Pacfic fleet.
 

MwRYum

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now if they can laid down and build 052D in this rate all over china.

this would be required as a minimum to challenge the USN Pacfic fleet.

No they can't, only the most established shipyards have enough room to build DDG, even Huangpu find it rather tight getting the 054A FFG down in the water; so we see there's a delegation of workloads amongst shipyards, 056 is small enough to let minor shipyard to join in the building effort, and on the other hand there's an acute need to replace the antiquated 037 sub chasers.
 

i.e.

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No they can't, only the most established shipyards have enough room to build DDG, even Huangpu find it rather tight getting the 054A FFG down in the water; so we see there's a delegation of workloads amongst shipyards, 056 is small enough to let minor shipyard to join in the building effort, and on the other hand there's an acute need to replace the antiquated 037 sub chasers.

Huangpu shipyard's old site may be. the yard space that builds 054s is only a fraction of their old yard. not their new yard space which builds big containers and specialized exploration rigs.

Shanghai's Hudong's constraint is the Huangpu river.

Dalian, Huludao. all has very large spaces to work with.

its their quality that plan don't thrust
 
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