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China's Education system compared to the USA
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bladerunner
Banned Idiot
Thanks it was interesting. However light and shadow also adds to a feeling of depth. Thats something one doesn't see in the ist photo consisting of a bunch of flowers from No-name 's provided kalidescope of Chinese art in post 56. Now imagine that with the traditional painting of still life such as that bowl of fruit that we in the WEst who have been told to paint /draw during school art classes.
bladerunner
Banned Idiot
Still banging on about art, but heres atrue story on how Asian art student was studying painting as one of her entrance subjects to gain university admission to study architecture.
Her task was to submit a finished piece of work of modern painting. (some sort of ism I forgot which) Because the painting included Chinese writing she was given a non pass mark,and subsequently failed to get into architecture school.
The problem was that the markers had to interpret the painting and any words/writing has to have some intergral part of the painting.None of the markers knew Chinese, so she was deemed to not meet the criteria despite the fact that the painting was a brilliant piece of work, according to my wife.
Her task was to submit a finished piece of work of modern painting. (some sort of ism I forgot which) Because the painting included Chinese writing she was given a non pass mark,and subsequently failed to get into architecture school.
The problem was that the markers had to interpret the painting and any words/writing has to have some intergral part of the painting.None of the markers knew Chinese, so she was deemed to not meet the criteria despite the fact that the painting was a brilliant piece of work, according to my wife.
That's called hierarchical scale, and it's present in everything from cave paintings, to ancient Egyptian art, to Greek, comic books, and yes, even communist propaganda.
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vesicles
Colonel
I would suggest that we stay away from art since art is a completely subjective matter. Also that we are arguing about the Chinese education system, not whether Chinese as a culture are creative. We know for a fact that Chinese are as creative as any people in the world. Simply look around, you'll find many everyday-things inspired by Chinese inventions throughout history. That's not what we are arguing!
Like what exactly?
Also I disagree that art is completely subjective. There are clear principles, guides, techniques and concepts behind not only what makes up a work of art, but also what would make a work of art "good". Styles may change over time, but that change itself displays a clear progression of technical skill and understanding.
That said, I agree that it's quite a tangent. I'll stop commenting on the art thing until it's relevant again.
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vesicles
Colonel
Let's see... What about gun powder, compass, paper making, printing?
Lack of (or difference in) perspective seems to be the case with some of the technical drawings too, giving a somewhat uncommon view.
As for landscape and street scenes I feel the perspective chosen is an effort to present a panorama view of the scenes.
Also perhapse they feel that lightning/shadows is somewhat arbitrary dependent on many factor so simply don't include them or just assume the object is illuminated equally from all direction to represent what they feel is the most objective representation of the object itself.
As for landscape and street scenes I feel the perspective chosen is an effort to present a panorama view of the scenes.
Also perhapse they feel that lightning/shadows is somewhat arbitrary dependent on many factor so simply don't include them or just assume the object is illuminated equally from all direction to represent what they feel is the most objective representation of the object itself.
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bladerunner
Banned Idiot
I agree with you 100%. Perhaps Vesicles is just indulging in a bit of academic snobbery. Besides, better study habits and a higher intensity in teaching has been discussed in many a thread.
Not all Chinese students study the sciences, some do humanities which also involve some subjectivity.while others study the arts, especially design/product design, animation, etc. As the standard for that area of study pretty much sucks so I'm told. Some also go on to study architecture.
We have in this thread discussed the difficulty Chinese students encounter as they transition from a Chinese educational background to a Western one especially, when they are required to express their ideas in a group discussion
However these students have an added problem. While maths, biology, chemistry, physics, is the same in anybody's language, not so the creative arts/design, where the Chinese/ or non Caucasian students are required to set aside their cultural upbringing and think like a Caucasian as they explain why the project they have come up with conforms to Western values of "form and function" if they wish to succeed.
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