Chinese Engine Development

Centrist

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Hey guys. I recently wrote an article about the WS-10 engine's development history. I did the best I could being unable to read Chinese. I know I cannot substantiate all of these claims, but the timeline is reasonably. Let me know if you see any significant errors.

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Mostly I am just attempting to get all the reasonable assertions in one place. Putting all the pieces together, as it were. This really hasn't yet been done in English at least.
 

tphuang

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from royfc, a lot of Russian stuff gets translated there
Final Fifth Batch of D-30KP-2 Engines Manufactured by NPO Saturn Handed over to Chinese Customer

On 23 March, the fifth batch of D-30KP-2 engines manufactured by NPO Saturn was handed over to the Chinese Customer.

It is the final batch of 11 engines in accordance with a contract between FGUP Rosoboronehksport and the People’s Republic of China that entered into force in April 2009, for the deliver of 55 engines in the period to 2012.

Delivery of the final batch of D-30KP-2 engines is intended before the end of March of this year.

The technical support on the part of the manufacturing enterprise in the warranty period also was provided for by the contract.

The previous four batches of D-30KP-2 engines were handed over by the Russian side in November 2009 and March, May and October 2010, respectively.

Members of a Chinese delegation and a representative of the PRC embassy in Moscow, Chzhen Kai, noted with satisfaction the timely and quality fulfillment of Saturn’s contract obligations during the acceptance operations.

According to the Saturn commercial director, Sergey Popov, “for NPO Saturn who has a long friendly connections with the Chinese customer, it is a great honor to successfully conclude work on this contract. We are counting on a rapid continuation of Russo-Chinese cooperation. In particular, on the further delivery to China of D-30KP-2 aircraft engines.

Source: 25.03.11, NPO Saturn
so, 55 D30KP2 have been delivered and could be used for H-6K program or Y-20.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Couple days ago I read that they have succesfully tested smart rocket similiar to "Excalibur" Another proof if the can fitted sensitve electronic on a rocket, they should be able to do it for Missile

Aviation firms enter engine market Source: Global Times [02:09 April 13 2011] Comments By Xu Tianran

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Aviation companies will invest heavily in improving domestic jet engines over the next five years as part of a plan to boost China's defense and aeronautic capabilities.
The companies would splash 10 billion yuan ($1.52 billion) on them, Lin Zuoming, Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) general manager announced Sunday
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"This will be the largest AVIC investment in China's aviation industry," he told the Global Times.
China's most capable domestic fighter planes are the Chengdu J-10 and the Shengyang J-11. The Shengyang J-11 is a domestic variant of the Russian Suhoi Su-27, according to the Chinese Military Aviation website.

Both the Chengdu J-10 single engine fighter and early models of the Shenyang J-11 double engine heavy fighters use Russian AL-31FN/F engines. Domestic-made WS-10 engines now power the latest Shenyang J-11 fighters.
The C919 civil passenger aircraft, manufactured by the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China, relies on Western engines, as does the ARJ-21 advanced regional jet.

A domestic-made engine for the C919 is scheduled to be delivered by 2020, Wang Zhilin, general manager of COMAC, was quoted as saying in an April 2 China News Service report.

"To make China a major player in the world aviation industry, the Aviation Industry Corporation of China has placed aircraft engine development as top priority," Lin said.
According to AVIC's official prediction, net profits of the corporation last year were more than 10.5 billion yuan ($1.6 billion).

Engine development in China is relatively weak compared to aircraft design or other sub-systems, industry insiders such as Zhou Jun, AVIC external cooperation department chief, have long been saying.

Meanwhile, three days before the AVIC announcement, the China Association for Science and Technology released the Ordnance Technology Development Report 2010-2011, stating that domestic smart sub-munitions for rockets of multiple-rocket launchers have reached advanced international standards

The report also claimed the defense industry would develop a high performance medium-caliber artillery system for air defense that included intercepting incoming missiles, Hong Kong-based Ta Kung Pao reported Saturday.
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In some areas such as high efficiency warhead and propulsion system of rockets, China is still behind the US and Russia, the report stated.

The gap was partially caused by inadequate foundation research, believed Xiong Wei, deputy editor of Ordnance Knowledge.

"Little has been invested in basic research over the past years," he said. "Take explosives for example. That involves multiple sectors including materials, manufacturing technology and the industrial foundation of the nation."

Through economic development, more money should be spent on supporting foundation research and an integration of military and civil industries should be promoted, Xiong argued.

"Technologies transferred to civil areas will bring profits to the defense industry and accelerate development of defense technology," he said.
"Advanced civil technologies, especially in electronic and material sectors, could also benefit the development of
 
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AssassinsMace

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There's a thread over at fy about it but no source. Just a blurb about this guy winning some award where I guess he said the WS-15 could achieve 200kn. Just wondering if anyone had heard about it.
 

latenlazy

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It says that the WS-15's core is capable of up to 200 KN (but it's implied for a civilian turbofan?) Very suspicious of the claim. I'm searching and the name doesn't pop up anywhere. You'd think one could search him on baidu or google but I haven't found anything.

Some posters on fy js are suspicious too.
 
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johnqh

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It says that the WS-15's core is capable of up to 200 KN (but it's implied for a civilian turbofan?) Very suspicious of the claim. I'm searching and the name doesn't pop up anywhere. You'd think one could search him on baidu or google but I haven't found anything.

Some posters on fy js are suspicious too.

F129 and F135 use the same core. F135 is at close to 200KN, isn't it?
 
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