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delft said:

If Japan is afraid not to have security treaty, it should have one with China. Then they wouldn't have foreign forces in their country, especially important to Okinawa, and not have to pay for those forces.

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Without the US stationed there, Japan will have to spend far more on defence than they're now, bridging the gap between what the US is offering and their own. In fact, a good part of the economic miracle Japan enjoyed came from such alliance, which Japan could concentrate on economy despite such a hot spot the region is.

In short, Japan and US have a love-hate relationship that Japan find themselves can't live without at the end of the day. If not, the whole Okinawa base re-location issue won't be stuck there for so long.

And signing a security treaty with China? Now, you either from another planet or you need to have your brain examined, braincell by braincell...not only there're too much bad blood between the two nations, China can't even hope to offer a fraction of what the US is doing as we speak. Like I've said before, alliance with the US is the reason that Japan don't have to spend more than they are now...the "otherwise" scenario would have Japan develop up to and including nuclear arms...

Plus, most importantly, China IS still the enemy, encircling China is still within Japan's own agenda, which we can see in their diplomacy to essentially caging China behind a ring of sort, how nervous they get whenever PLAN making fleet movements past the island chain, and how hard they tried to create legal precedence in jurisdiction in Diaoyu Islands area.

Diagram of Eight Japanese aircraft carriers and four non-Japanese ones :

Spartan95 said:

Whatever gave you that idea?

Oh right, you said that PRC was going to attack Japan during the Diaoyutai/Senkaku trawler incident a few months back. And that PLAN's carrier will go out to sea before Chinese New year.

Also, why should Japan attack the Chunxiao gas field? Because you think so? If so, on what basis?

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The Chunxiao gas field was previously not even disputed because it is on the other side of the EEZ boundary claimed by Japan. Now Japan has escalated the conflict so that even Chunxiao gas field is "disputed." Japan is looking to annex Chinese territory step-by-step once again.

The earthquake has not changed Japan's expansionist intentions. Instead, Japan's new textbooks reiterate its claim over Diaoyutai as well as Russia's southern Kurils. The earthquake will only cause Japan to expand even more because its losing scarce arable land to radiation. Japan is a country that cannot even feed itself with its own arable land and has to import food.

This is the perfect opportunity for China to secure its future prosperity for 1000 years by removing the Japanese threat. If China presses the attack during this time and disrupts Japan's import of food / fuel, Japan will collapse into anarchy and cease to be a threat.

If China presses the attack during this time and disrupts Japan's import of food / fuel, Japan will collapse into anarchy and cease to be a threat.

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China will not attack Japan or the Philippines. Not going to happen.

You ever been to Japan? I have and no matter the situation outside of total war I don't see Japan collapsing into total anarchy. No way.

Roger604 said:

The Chunxiao gas field was previously not even disputed because it is on the other side of the EEZ boundary claimed by Japan. Now Japan has escalated the conflict so that even Chunxiao gas field is "disputed." Japan is looking to annex Chinese territory step-by-step once again.

The earthquake has not changed Japan's expansionist intentions. Instead, Japan's new textbooks reiterate its claim over Diaoyutai as well as Russia's southern Kurils. The earthquake will only cause Japan to expand even more because its losing scarce arable land to radiation. Japan is a country that cannot even feed itself with its own arable land and has to import food.

This is the perfect opportunity for China to secure its future prosperity for 1000 years by removing the Japanese threat. If China presses the attack during this time and disrupts Japan's import of food / fuel, Japan will collapse into anarchy and cease to be a threat.

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Because obviously, China doesn't care about its image of attacking a country during a humanitarian crisis and is also going to ignore the fact that the US has sent over 10,000 more troops and in addition to extra ships and helos into the area as part of Operation Tomodachi which could easily be converted back to combat use.

Besides, to say that the PLAN can defeat the JSMDF is bloody ridiculous (is bloody an acceptable "swear" word bdpopeye?)

Sirf_palot said:

Because obviously, China doesn't care about its image of attacking a country during a humanitarian crisis and is also going to ignore the fact that the US has sent over 10,000 more troops and in addition to extra ships and helos into the area as part of Operation Tomodachi which could easily be converted back to combat use.

Besides, to say that the PLAN can defeat the JSMDF is bloody ridiculous (is bloody an acceptable "swear" word Roger?)

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China's image to its enemies is irrelevant. China's image will be enormously boosted in the eyes of its 1.3 billion people if the government can successfully defend China's core interests.

Let's take a look at history. In 1923, the Great Kanto Earthquake in Tokyo killed more than 100,000 people. This happened after Japan occupied Korean peninsula, Ryukyu Islands and Taiwan. Only 9 years later, Japan invaded Manchuria. 5 years after that, Japan took Nanjing.

JMSDF is strong, but PLAN will achieve parity very soon. China's newest SSK is already on par with Japan's newest SSK the Shoryu class. Such a large, ocean-going SSK will be critical to laying mines around Okinawa bases and Tokyo ports.

And, of course, PLAAF now out-classes JASDF. The two air forces already routinely tangle above Diaoyutai with China's J-10 / J-11B having a clear advantage over Japan's F-2 / F-15.

As for the US. Yes, the US is the most powerful military nation in the world. But guess who's #2 -- it isn't Russia and it isn't Japan.





The latest Japanese textbooks show China's Diaoyutai, Korea's Dokdo and Russia's Southern Kurils as Japanese territory! Japan is running out of arable land and resources. It feels a need to expand, starting with islands and waters in East Asia. Meanwhile, it is overloading its nuclear reactors with fissile material and building solid fuel rockets with AI guidance systems for "space exploration."

Roger604 said:

The Chunxiao gas field was previously not even disputed because it is on the other side of the EEZ boundary claimed by Japan. Now Japan has escalated the conflict so that even Chunxiao gas field is "disputed." Japan is looking to annex Chinese territory step-by-step once again.

The earthquake has not changed Japan's expansionist intentions. Instead, Japan's new textbooks reiterate its claim over Diaoyutai as well as Russia's southern Kurils. The earthquake will only cause Japan to expand even more because its losing scarce arable land to radiation. Japan is a country that cannot even feed itself with its own arable land and has to import food.

This is the perfect opportunity for China to secure its future prosperity for 1000 years by removing the Japanese threat. If China presses the attack during this time and disrupts Japan's import of food / fuel, Japan will collapse into anarchy and cease to be a threat.

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I completely agree with Roger64.
I can't believe Japan is now trying to even dispute Chunxiao gas field which lies on the side of Chinese EEZ.

It seems it is a trend that Japan always trying to invade China or Korea. Historically, there is never a "China problem" for Japan where as Japan is ALWAYS a problem for China. Japan has historically benefited from China (technologies, religion, resources) while China has rarely been benefited from Japan. Japan had historically invaded China and Korea numerous times in the past - not even counting the times where Japanese pirates raided coastal area of Korea and China. While China never try to invade Japan once.


It seems Japanese are becoming more and more assertive now, they are already almost forgetting their WWII past. Every year, it seems the support to abandon article 9 is becoming stronger and stronger. Its only matter of time (maybe in less than a decade) when they will finally pass (they have already propose to abandon Article 9 numerous times in the past). They also upgraded their "defense agency" into a full "Ministry of Defense" just few years ago,while seeking to aggressively expanding their power projection capabilities (Hyūga class helicopter destroyers - which are helicopter carriers but in reality can easily be used as normal aircraft carriers when F-35s are sold to Japan), it won't be long they will start another war with China - sadly this time, at the delight and probably full support of American and their allies.

And I agree with Roger, Japan has little resources. For example - rare earth minerals, oil, gas, nuclear fuels, arable land. It cannot be self-sufficient no matter how much they try - and as year goes on, technological society requires enormous resources to sustain itself - especially for a high tech country like Japan. This will definitely be the driving factor for a new militarized Japan no matter how much they try to say they will never wage another war.

Its not because China wants a war with Japan, its because Japan wants to have a war with China (and eventually rest of Asia).

Korea is the gate way to china. Japan will need to fight with an militarily advanced south korea first, with north behind them.

Japan is best to lie low for a couple hundred years. It would be silly to fight during China's ascendancy. The momentum is too large, just like it is silly for them to fight with an ascendant US in WWII

Their anti-china mentality is not going to be easily changed.
The fact that they makes things so tense, even in the middle of a natural disaster with korean and china's help turned down - show you that they are having trouble even pretending. I feel deep down they were still hostile, WWII to them was a regret not because they seriously knew they were wrong, but because they could have won and didn't.

no_name said:

Their anti-china mentality is not going to be easily changed.
The fact that they makes things so tense, even in the middle of a natural disaster with korean and china's help turned down - show you that they are having trouble even pretending. I feel deep down they were still hostile, WWII to them was a regret not because they seriously knew they were wrong, but because they could have won and didn't.

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Yeh, exactly.
A lot of Japanese still thinks the American "cheated" with the nuke. They calculated if American had to mount an invasion force to take Japan, the loss would have been catastrophic for American, but they didn't know American had nuclear weapon. So til this day they still felt cheated out of a victory (or atleast a stalemate).

Their mentality is fairly similar to the German right after WWI. The German never felt they lost, and they were cheated by the allies. So the Nazi were able to exploit that mentality and get into power. The Japanese are in same mentality. A lot of japanese politicians voice that sentiment secretly - influential writer and current Tokyo Governor Shintarō Ishihara wrote a very influential book "The Japan That Can Say No" (「NO」と言える日本, "No" to ieru Nippon), co-authored with then-Sony chairman (and founder) Akio Morita. The book called on his fellow countrymen to stand up to the United States.

Shintarō Ishihara was actually hugely influenced by this other nut Yukio Mishima who was highly influential Japanese writer/actor back in his time (surprisingly he was nominated three times for the Nobel Prize in Literature!). Yukio Mishima was nothing short of Adolf Hitler had he succeeded a military coup back in 1970. Yukio Mishima formed the Tatenokai (Shield Society), a private army which is similar to the Nazis had it gain the momentum. Luckily it didn't, and Yukio Mishima's military coup failed and he committed seppuku back in 1970. But his followers didn't die with him, and some later became influential like Shintarō Ishihara who became the Tokyo Governor.