Here's Why I think China's development is slower than South Korea.

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antimatter

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South Korea has jumped from 3 world country to developed nation in just one generation 20 yrs.

Now, it still registered impressive growth behind its impressive technology and innvoative prodcuts worldwide.

South Korea elect president that has experience running the corporate congolmerate like Samsung. Current South Korea President Lee myunk Bak was ex CEO of Samsung.

it was always like that. Samsung was placed above everything else in the country.
It knows what to invest, which field to invest. Which key technology is important.

While Korea dominant in global supplier of Memory, DRAM, NAND, LED Harddrive, Cellphone, Cars. China is lacking behind much on this because it doesn't know which field to support and which crucial technology is needed.

Chinese leader only knows infrastrcuture building, building roads, train tracks, tall buildings, steel, cement.. Dam building, the old fashion stuffs, only infrastrcuture building.

I think chinese leaders are out of dated. they don't what really important. Right now, without the stimulus money, CHina will have tough time to grow because lack of key technology.

EX-Samsung CEO becoming president of Korea really sums it up. South Korea is smarter.

Did you know South korea has the highest growth after China in 2009, beating Vietnam and other developing country.

You think China 2009 trade surplus is high at $200 billion, try Korea 's $40 billion for such tiny tiny country. China's population is 15 times bigger than Korea;s

So, China 's trade surplus $200 is not very impressive against Korea's $40 billion, only 5 times.

That's very impressive for developed country. South Korea that is.

It's model for the chinese leader to emulate.
 

cmb=1968

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South Korea Had the favor of the US Since the Korean War giving them access to Western technology.

China in the 1960s decimated its intellectual elite and University alumni during the Proletarian Cultural Revolution.
 

ravenshield936

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South Korea has jumped from 3 world country to developed nation in just one generation 20 yrs.

Now, it still registered impressive growth behind its impressive technology and innvoative prodcuts worldwide.

South Korea elect president that has experience running the corporate congolmerate like Samsung. Current South Korea President Lee myunk Bak was ex CEO of Samsung.

it was always like that. Samsung was placed above everything else in the country.
It knows what to invest, which field to invest. Which key technology is important.

While Korea dominant in global supplier of Memory, DRAM, NAND, LED Harddrive, Cellphone, Cars. China is lacking behind much on this because it doesn't know which field to support and which crucial technology is needed.

Chinese leader only knows infrastrcuture building, building roads, train tracks, tall buildings, steel, cement.. Dam building, the old fashion stuffs, only infrastrcuture building.

I think chinese leaders are out of dated. they don't what really important. Right now, without the stimulus money, CHina will have tough time to grow because lack of key technology.

EX-Samsung CEO becoming president of Korea really sums it up. South Korea is smarter.

Did you know South korea has the highest growth after China in 2009, beating Vietnam and other developing country.

You think China 2009 trade surplus is high at $200 billion, try Korea 's $40 billion for such tiny tiny country. China's population is 15 times bigger than Korea;s

So, China 's trade surplus $200 is not very impressive against Korea's $40 billion, only 5 times.

That's very impressive for developed country. South Korea that is.

It's model for the chinese leader to emulate.

1. So's China in terms of growth. Why don't we compare GDP, military capabilities, foreign reserves while we're at it?
2. So you suggest in electing someone who runs an electronics industry into being the leader of a sovereign nation? Samsung radiation must be really bad for the brain.
3. To some people obsessed with Starcraft, HD and DRAM are the most important technology. ever. You're also right. China doesn't know how to support a huge population of Starcraft freaks. South Korea must be expert in this.
4. To people who stays inside the basement 24/7 harvesting minerals and infesting command centers, roads and train tracks aren't important. It makes sense right? These things aren't needed in Starcraft since they can simply lift off their bases and move it somewhere. I bet the South Koreans must be developing this technology to hover their houses as we speak.

5. You're right. Chinese people need more Vespane gas and minerals as stimulus money. Also FYI, Starcraft is at least 10 years old.

6. If finding someone in charge of making cellphones to become a leader of a nation is smart, then I admit, the South Koreans are smarter. China will never be smart enough for that.

7. In the end, China's surplus is still 5 times of South Korea, by your logic.

8. Very impressive post you've made. Zeratul must be very proud of you.
 

AssassinsMace

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I don't think it's as easy an explanation as that. The West has always tried to prevent China from developing the highest of hi-tech to this very day and in the future. You can't say that for South Korea.
 

Obcession

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Ok... whatever happened to Haier and Huawei?

Not to mention that China really started to modernize in the late 1970s. China has a population of 1.2 billion. South Korea has 48 million. It's a lot easier to industrialize a small country like South Korea or Japan than China. Maybe investing in infrastructure is not as important for a small country, but laying an advanced network of roads and railway tracks across a nation as big as China is an impressive feat by itself. Maybe you can rely on merely Samsung to get the whole nation industrialized (by your logic), but you can't rely on a single company to get the whole of China industrialized, no matter how big it is. The differences in the two nations' circumstances are vast, and modernizing a large country has its unique challenges.
 

rhino123

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I do not really know what to say when I read the first poster's (antimatter) post on this topic... I really do not think anyone in the right mind would actually come up with a concept so absurb... as what he had suggested (and even post some references!)

I mean... comeon... read some history, will you. President Lee was only elected in recent years... he is not the one to actually build South Korea into what it is now. Plus... I do not need to repeat what other posters had said.

And let me just tell you something, I hope it will stick... Above almost everything else, infra-structure (roads, buildings, railways, etc) are by far one of the most important thing in the building of a nation.

These things are what enable transportation and thus logistic of the nations to be functional. Tell me how else are you going to deliver your people, goods, etc throughout your nation? How are you even able to link a nation as big as china up internally without all these basic structures... by hover crafts? By aeroplanes? God... what are you thinking?

Also you mention something like dam... you think people just wanted to build dam for what? Tourist attraction? their own ego? For god sake... it is for electric generation. Without electricity, what do you use to power your industries? Steam?

Of course the Chinese could built nuclear (but by your logic) they should simply forgo all these and concentrate on making computer games and computer chips...

And by your logics, let the farmer starve, let the general population go to hell... why don't we just concentrate on building computer chips and computer games, so as to make the nation rich.

Come on. The model of South Korea cannot be use in China. As China's model cannot be use in South Korea too. Smaller country that already had electric source, infrastructure and a smaller population could be run by one model. While huge country like China, with massive amount of population and is just in recent decades started building up and modernizing needed another model entirely different to run.
 

joshuatree

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South Korea has jumped from 3 world country to developed nation in just one generation 20 yrs......

I think chinese leaders are out of dated. they don't what really important. Right now, without the stimulus money, CHina will have tough time to grow because lack of key technology......

SK did not get to where they are today in just 20 years. And you left out a crucial detail, SK had the support and backing of the USA. Imagine how much resources SK would have to devote to military defense if not for the US military sitting at the DMZ alongside them. Don't forget the tech and knowledge transfers the US gave them as well. Lastly, if China is going to have a tough time to grow, guess what will happen to the SK economy as they ever more so look to China for market growth. I'm happy for SK's advancements but your comparison is way off base.
 

antimatter

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Does China even have one company that has outstanding all round Solid State technology like Samsung? Regardless of what models China used, it should at least have 1 or 2 Samsung like companies.

DRAM, NAND, Foundry, Harddrive, Cellphone, LCD, Logic chips.

US has already lowered the ban on sub micron equipements to China already.


Haier and Huawei are strictly system level guys.
 

rhino123

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My friend... running a country is different from running a company. That is one thing I am going to tell you and I believe many will tell you the same thing. Samsung is a great company, China do not have a company like Samsung... so?

Please read my post. I think it will give you some insight. And for your information, US president is also not like Korean... and US do not place their focus only on electronic developement. Actually this speak true of all developed countries.

And finally, I don't think Korea's present government place all their emphasis on electronic sector too. A company can place their emphasis on one single industry and do well in it. And earn tons of money, a government cannot.
 
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