movie:The Founding of A Repulic

maozedong

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as many people knows,to celebrate the 60th anniversary of National Day, China just showing the movie " The Founding of A Repulic",
this histrical movie described the Chinese civil war from 1945-1949,and the People's Republic was established, the film cast in the history of Chinese film ever strong, and therefore the box office were packed,interestingly, like Jackie Chan, Zhang Ziyi....movie stars in the film is only a small role.
what do you feel this?
 
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as many people knows,to celebrate the 60th anniversary of National Day, China just showing the movie " The Founding of A Repulic",
this histrical movie described the Chinese civil war from 1945-1949,and the People's Republic was established, the film cast in the history of Chinese film ever strong, and therefore the box office were packed,interestingly, like Jackie Chan, Zhang Ziyi....movie stars in the film is only a small role.
what do you feel this?

We saw the trailer. It was amazing because it's packed with stars. Virtually anybody that anybody has heard of is in it. Even those roles with no lines, like "pedestrian A" or somebody who just stands in the background were played by stars who would be in leading role in any ordinary movie. I think many people want to see simply to count stars.;)
 

ABC78

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Jet Li is also in the movie but for some reason he's not listed. But you can clearly see him in the trailer. I wonder if this is because he file for Singaporean citizenship?
 

Violet Oboe

Junior Member
By the way, will the movie be screened in Singapore? :confused:

AFAIK there are still some pretty nasty laws on the book in Xinjiapo (新嘉坡) prohibiting pro-Communist and pro-Nationalist propaganda.
In fact until the early 90's many people were jailed just for showing sympathies for the PRC and even today most Chinese people in Singapore have inhibitions about their national feelings for fear of being cast as pro-Beijing.

Fortunately in our times everyone who wants will be able to buy a DVD copy for a few bugs or download the movie by the net so any attempts of censorship by the hybrid anti-national regime in Singapore will be futile. :D Some day time will also overcome the deep entrenched power of the US serving unpatriotic Lee clan... :nono:
 

Spike

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^^ You realize that if Singapore swung into the pro-PRC camp in an obvious fashion during the Cold War and even now it would compromise itself politically, considering the neighbourhood it's in?

Jet Li is also in the movie but for some reason he's not listed. But you can clearly see him in the trailer. I wonder if this is because he file for Singaporean citizenship?
I don't think he got paid? Most of these stars donated their time and made cameo appearances.
 

Violet Oboe

Junior Member
@Spike:
Of course things are in flow in Singapore and I'm aware of that. Though last time I checked Singapore had a military alliance with the US and the USN had even a small detachment there. Not to mention where all these expensive F-16 and F-15 of Singapore's airforce are actually in ´training´! So describing Singapore as being in the ´pro-PRC camp´ is at least somewhat exaggerated.
 

Damingli85

Junior Member
So I bought the movie before my ban, and I watched it. My rating?....6/10. However I did buy it from some bootlegger in NYC and parts of the movie was cut out.
 

maozedong

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Thursday, Oct. 08, 2009
Reshooting History in a New China Film
By Zoher Abdoolcarim
It's early 1949, China's in the endgame of its civil war and Mao Zedong's communist forces are poised to take Beijing. Just south of the Yangtze, in Nanjing, Mao's archfoe, Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek, holds court as the leader of the Republic of China and its Nationalist Kuomintang (KMT) government. But Mao believes that winning Beijing first will deal a mortal blow to the morale of the KMT. En route to what will be the future People's Republic's capital, he and his top lieutenants pause in a town that has been deserted by shopkeepers and merchants fleeing the revolution of the proletariat. As Mao laments being unable to buy even his favorite smokes, he soberly says to his comrades-in-arms, "We need the capitalists back."
It seems improbable that Mao would actually have expressed such a reactionary sentiment at such a heady time. His was a movement driven by the cause of the exploited worker and peasant. Yet the scene appears in The Founding of a Republic, a slickly produced (though ponderously paced) state-backed film to commemorate this year's 60th anniversary of the People's Republic of China. (See pictures of China's 60th birthday bash.)
The docudrama-style film begins in 1945 with the then temporarily allied communists and Nationalists celebrating the defeat of the Japanese and culminates with the declaration of the People's Republic by Mao at Beijing's Tiananmen Square. It purports to tell the true and full story of the tangled dance between the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and the KMT to forge a new, unified China. As you'd expect, many — but surprisingly not all — elements of the KMT are portrayed as malevolent and capricious, and the CCP justly triumphs (of course!). Yet Founding goes beyond routine propaganda. What's striking is how the film exposes — intentionally, we would assume — some of the thinking of the Chinese leadership today. (Read "China at 60: The Road to Prosperity.")
China's past 60 years can be divided into roughly two halves. First came the period of ceaseless revolution, with all the widespread turmoil and suffering it perpetrated. Then the time of gradual reform, which has brought greater prosperity and freedom than China has ever known but which is still characterized by grave corruption and terrible injustice under a stern authoritarianism. Today China is many things, often contradictory: rich and poor, open and closed, liberated and oppressed, confident and insecure. But it decidedly isn't Marxist — or even Maoist. (See pictures of modern Shanghai.)
Because the CCP now gains its legitimacy almost solely from the material wealth it has created and is communist only in name, it has to recast the past to justify the present. Thus, in Founding, class struggle is hardly depicted or mentioned. Mao not only needs a capitalist to provide him with a cigarette; he and his cohorts admit they are ignorant about economics, which they acknowledge is essential to running the country. The message: Mao was great at consolidating the nation under the communist banner, but he was clueless about development; it's today's CCP that made the new new China — modern, strong, feared.
With the civil war practically won, Mao is also shown to be assiduously wooing assorted Chinese politicians, most notably intellectuals who saw the revolution as a chance to usher in democracy. This way, the CCP can be promoted as a party with roots in a broad-based political movement and not just in the spoils of war — thus further boosting its authority. Taiwan figures too. Mao tries to persuade Li Jishen, an influential southern China figure aligned with the KMT, to join the communist government. Li confesses to Mao that he is responsible for the deaths of many communist cadres. Mao's reply: Let's forget the past and begin a new future. That's directed at Taipei — part of Beijing's ongoing charm offensive toward Taiwan, once relentlessly denounced as a renegade province.
Then there's the Sinophile John Leighton Stuart, son of missionaries to China and U.S. ambassador to Chiang's Nanjing government. At the time, the real-life Mao vilified Stuart as an agent of American aggression toward the communists. In the film, Stuart, as well as the U.S. State Department, is lukewarm toward Chiang and the KMT — reflecting, perhaps, Beijing's desire to maintain the momentum of its improving diplomatic ties with Washington. (Last November, the Chinese acceded to a four-decade-old request by Stuart's family to have his ashes buried in a cemetery in Hangzhou, near Shanghai.)
Political rulers everywhere rewrite and use history for their ends. But as China looms ever larger in the global consciousness, anything we can glean about its leadership is especially valuable. There's one moral in Founding, however, that Beijing probably did not intend. Chiang Ching-kuo, Chiang Kai-shek's son, is briefing his father about his fight to rid the KMT of corruption and injustice. Chiang praises his son's idealism — and gently advises him to desist so as not to undermine the KMT at a critical juncture in the civil war. "If you go ahead," says Chiang, "you lose the party." But, the Generalissimo quietly adds, "if you don't, you lose China." That's a message China's present leaders would do well to heed.
 

kwiekie

New Member
Is true that Mao tried to form a coalition government with Chiang, but he refused?
And how historically accurate are the rest of the movie?
 

maozedong

Banned Idiot
Is true that Mao tried to form a coalition government with Chiang, but he refused?
And how historically accurate are the rest of the movie?

its hard to say, the circumstances in that history, Chiang and his nationalist party(KMT) is China's governer, of course he does not tolerate the existence of the Communist Party(CCP), but Mao and CCP want in China a revolution to overthrow the rule of Chiang Kai-shek's unification,this has become a non-solution contradictions.
But China after decades of war, turmoil, especially the eight-year Sino-Japanese War, the people are very painful and all the people for peace, which forced them to peace talks.
However, peace negotiations would not succeed, of course, finally, the Chinese civil war broke out.
 
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