Plan Type 095/096 Nuclear Submarine Thread

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    I'm sorry you lot have no idea how much it costs to run a SSN or SSBN

    UK spends over £2 billion per year on running 4 x Vanguard class SSBN, easily 6% of total military spending on 4 units

    Boomers are notorious for cost, and this doesn't include missile, vessel and reactor maintenance

    SSN are probably half that cost around £250 million per year per ship, UK nuclear submarine fleet consumes more than 10% of entire budget thats entire budget not just navy budget

    now if you scale that up by 5 times or so 14 x SSBN and 60 x SSN your looking at over £20 billion, and btw increasing fleet does not decrease running cost

    sure Chinese have lower running costs but are the Type 095 reactor cores for the lifetime of the submarine? how about mid life recycle and overhaul?

    its not Childs play
     
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    I am sorry you have no idea how the US works its military budget you cannot bankrupt a country who literally trades all world oil in its own currency

    the US could double its entire fleet and still fight another day

    what was the costs of Iraq and Afghanistan like $2.4 trillion? never even made a dent
     
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    The indebted US public, 2008 and it’s own military unable to fund stuff disagrees with you.

    Printing more money only helps devaluing the currency.

    Already the US is at a breaking point where it either has to prioritize keeping large amounts of “good enough” platforms running, or try to chase after new technologies.

    The US does not have the industrial capacity to match China if the latter commits to a buildup. It’s only a matter of exceeding the Americans in numbers, which WILL be possible if China is only willing to recruit more people and not underspend on the army.
     
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    well, some countries already trade oils with other currencies, so USD is not the only currency for oil trade anymore ... and with Trump aggressive foreign policy, it will get even worse overtime

    2008 GFC which was started in the US .... more or less due to military over spending and huge debt ... the impact in the USA of GFC is huge ... see Chicago just one example, it was very beautiful city but now? nobody wants to live there
     
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    USN doesn't have to worry about diesel submarines hogging resources from SSN's while China has dozens of diesel subs and they are building more... either PLAN is stuck in the past with their diesel subs or they don't plan to go anywhere near 1-1 with nuke subs.

    Let's not go to bharat rakshak levels on here, mates.
     
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    Tell that to the Germans, Japanese and Israelis all making new SSKs?

    With current tech, the SSKs will still make up a "high end" close to the shore due to unmatched quieting. Both niches need to be filled, extremely capable less endurance boats and slightly less capable unlimited endurance boats.
     
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    Diesels are more useful to PLAN than SSNs. It's that simple. They are better for defending those local waters than SSNs. They are easier to build to a high standard. They are cheaper to build. They are less expensive to build. And they are quieter. SSNs projects are only alive for PLAN because they wish to one day expand influence beyond local waters and SSNs will be able to escort surface vessels far more effectively. SSNs also need to be constantly developed to keep up with emerging technologies because... well you have to keep practicing if you are interested in becoming good at something. SSBNs are not part of this discussion.
     
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