09III/09IV (093/094) Nuclear Submarine Thread

[GreenestGDP]

Of course, no offence taken at all.

It's probably just worth knowing what are fan pictures and which (if any) may be reflective of actual developments that may be occurring.

Specifically, at present, we do not know what 095 will look like, and the only photos we have of 093B/093G are very blurred ones over the last few years, posted here:

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/pl...ar-submarine-thread.t6883/page-46#post-367832

Thanks so much for your reply, Blitzo.


My 2 cents observation ... ...
Let's see if my observations below are logical or not ... ...

For a long time, there is no solid picture and news on 093-G and 095 sub ... ...
What if ... ...
we proactively analyse the informations that are available to us ... ...

#1



I have been googling the net, and so far, I can NOT find any other ( advanced
Hydrodynamics design -- 212A, AKULA , ASTUTE, SEAWOLF, VIRGINIA )
sub picture from any other nation that resemble the unknown sub picture above.


And, ...
If there is any other poster who can bring any other matching picture,
I would truly appreciate it.

If not, then ...

there are 3 possibilities only .... ... >>


1): The 1st possibility is the unknown sub picture is totally genuine picture.

So far, everyone I know and they have seen this unknown sub picture
has dismissed this #1 possibility as some hoax / fictional picture.

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2): The 2nd possibility is unknown sub picture is a genuine picture, but
it has been altered and photoshopped.

#2a



Does anyone know what kind of sub has a design matching the above picture ??
Especially, the 2 area enclosed by the green rectangle and green eclipse above ??


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**): IMHO, ... it is very probable to photoshop the conning tower.
shown by the blue rectangle below.


#2b



Does anyone notice, ... there is a slight dorsal hump after the conning tower ?

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3): The unknown sub picture is totally made from CGI by extremely, awesome CGI artist. Is that possible to draw the waves, matching the quality as the unknown sub picture above ??

My photoshopped skill is zero.


***) Is there any photoshopped expert out there who can vouch and claim
that it is super easy to create the unknown sub picture above from scratch
without using any known sub picture as a base ??


Again, the above are just my 2 cents observations, ... ...
If any part of my observation is illogical, then please feel free
to point it out to me ....

Thanks so much in advance for all your feedback.

 

[Blitzo]

Thanks so much for your reply, Blitzo.


My 2 cents observation ... ...
Let's see if my observations below are logical or not ... ...

For a long time, there is no solid picture and news on 093-G and 095 sub ... ...
What if ... ...
we proactively analyse the informations that are available to us ... ...

#1
View attachment 21090


I have been googling the net, and so far, I can NOT find any other ( advanced
Hydrodynamics design -- 212A, AKULA , ASTUTE, SEAWOLF, VIRGINIA )
sub picture from any other nation that resemble the unknown sub picture above.


And, ...
If there is any other poster who can bring any other matching picture,
I would truly appreciate it.

If not, then ...

there are 3 possibilities only .... ... >>


1): The 1st possibility is the unknown sub picture is totally genuine picture.

So far, everyone I know and they have seen this unknown sub picture
has dismissed this #1 possibility as some hoax / fictional picture.

-------------------------------------------------------


2): The 2nd possibility is unknown sub picture is a genuine picture, but
it has been altered and photoshopped.

#2a
View attachment 21091


Does anyone know what kind of sub has a design matching the above picture ??
Especially, the 2 area enclosed by the green rectangle and green eclipse above ??


-------------------------------------------------------

**): IMHO, ... it is very probable to photoshop the conning tower.
shown by the blue rectangle below.


#2b
View attachment 21092


Does anyone notice, ... there is a slight dorsal hump after the conning tower ?

-------------------------------------------------------


3): The unknown sub picture is totally made from CGI by extremely, awesome CGI artist. Is that possible to draw the waves, matching the quality as the unknown sub picture above ??

My photoshopped skill is zero.


***) Is there any photoshopped expert out there who can vouch and claim
that it is super easy to create the unknown sub picture above from scratch
without using any known sub picture as a base ??


Again, the above are just my 2 cents observations, ... ...
If any part of my observation is illogical, then please feel free
to point it out to me ....

Thanks so much in advance for all your feedback.

That picture is a fan CGI/photoshop, not real.

 

[GreenestGDP]

That picture is a fan CGI/photoshop, not real.

Many thanks for the reply.

Is whole picture including the waves and ocean made from CGI, starting from zero ?

 

[Blitzo]

Many thanks for the reply.

Is whole picture including the waves and ocean made from CGI, starting from zero ?

The waves and the background look to be real, but the conning tower and some of the submarine's hull are obviously doctored.

 

[broadsword]

The ocean and waves are the result of cut and paste from a real picture. Fake and real parts are spliced together and defining lines smoothed out.

 

[Hyperwarp]

Many thanks for the reply.

Is whole picture including the waves and ocean made from CGI, starting from zero ?

The submarine is CG. The background is from a real photo probably similar to this one -

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[kroko]

What is the latest status of type 095/096 ? its been a while since we had news from them.

 

[SinoSoldier]

What is the latest status of type 095/096 ? its been a while since we had news from them.

Nobody knows. They could be at any stage of construction or even trials and nobody would know.

That being said, considering the lack of rumors or internet chatter regarding the two, it is unlikely that either submarine has been launched. Of course, there is always the possibility that the Type 093G is actually the Type 095.

 

[kroko]

Nobody knows. They could be at any stage of construction or even trials and nobody would know.

That being said, considering the lack of rumors or internet chatter regarding the two, it is unlikely that either submarine has been launched. Of course, there is always the possibility that the Type 093G is actually the Type 095.

That wouldnt be good for china. They badly need a next-gen SSN. It should be their nº 1 priority for the navy, IMO.

 

[Blitzo]

That wouldnt be good for china. They badly need a next-gen SSN. It should be their nº 1 priority for the navy, IMO.

Well, if 093G really is 095, then it just means it will probably be succeeded by an 095G or 097...

In the end, it is the capability of the new submarine which matters rather than its name.

If 093G significantly improves upon 093's noise signature and features other advancements, then that would a very useful improvement.