075 LHD thread

I think somehow they build Indigenous designed ships much quicker than modifying or building reverse engineered designs.

kickars said:

I wouldn’t say PLAN hasn’t got internal dynamics. For one, it has always struggled its relationship with PLAAF, as PLANAF has always been looked down by PLAAF. And all the current J-15 pilots are from PLAAF rather than PLANAF. I’m sure in the near future it’s marine would seek more independence and the relations among PLAN , its marine and The army would be an interesting one to look out for.

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From my talk with a PLAAF pilot navy pilot are the most elite pilots and have a harder job. I dont think they are looked down at.

TK3600 said:

From my talk with a PLAAF pilot navy pilot are the most elite pilots and have a harder job. I dont think they are looked down at.

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I had an exactly the opposite conversation couple of years ago...

TK3600 said:

From my talk with a PLAAF pilot navy pilot are the most elite pilots and have a harder job. I dont think they are looked down at.

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kickars said:

I had an exactly the opposite conversation couple of years ago...

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Maybe both of you're right: just different contexts and different times. Carrier-based navy pilots are elite pilots; before that, navy pilots are secondary to PLAAF pilots. This is pretty obvious: the first several recruits are from the elite PLAAF pilots before the Navy started to recruit separately.

weig2000 said:

Maybe both of you're right: just different contexts and different times. Carrier-based navy pilots are elite pilots; before that, navy pilots are secondary to PLAAF pilots. This is pretty obvious: the first several recruits are from the elite PLAAF pilots before the Navy started to recruit separately.

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Correct, that’s what I heard. All the current carrier based pilots were selected from the air force.

I was also told one of the reasons there isn’t an Air Force base in Hainan island is basically the navy doesn’t get on with the air force at all. And in every joint training on the island the tensions have always been high. In fact, several time despite using the navy airport during the joint training, PLAAF pilots would take off when specifically been told by the navy ground control not to as the conditions were not “good enough” to take off based on PLAN’s guide line but well within the PLAAF’s, leaving all the PLAN’s aircrafts behind...

30 helicopters with ease

I would add the following

Z-18 Transport -12
Z-18J AEW-4
Z-18F/Z-20F ASW-4
Z-8CJ/Z9C SAR-2
Z10H Attack-8

3 x LHD needs 90 helicopters

the 8 x LPD can carry 8x4= 32 helicopters

thats 122

for carriers

CV-16 and CV-17 carry 12 x 2 = 24 helicopters

CV-18 also 12 more thats 36 helicopters for carriers

total helicopters for LPD, LHD and Carriers = 158

so how many naval aviation brigades is that?

kickars said:

I think somehow they build Indigenous designed ships much quicker than modifying or building reverse engineered designs.

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Thats a process, you learn first by reverse eng (i.e first carrier), and then after doing that you would get some confident and then directly build indigenous

weig2000 said:

Maybe both of you're right: just different contexts and different times. Carrier-based navy pilots are elite pilots; before that, navy pilots are secondary to PLAAF pilots. This is pretty obvious: the first several recruits are from the elite PLAAF pilots before the Navy started to recruit separately.

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That is correct. My context refer to the carrier pilots.

Gloire_bb said:

No, it is not. Intervention is their single and, by far, most important capability.
Otherwise, both their appearance and specifications would've been very different.

"Second rate carrier" is primarily interesting to those fleets which can't really afford a carrier, but want at least some sort of flattop. More often than not, in case of actual hostilities, these countries simply can hide behind the USN.

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They carried Harriers back then. It’s a different story nowadays with a dozen or two F-35B onboard each LHD/flattop.

Another one.

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