Plan Type 056 Class Opv/corvette

Discussion in 'Navy' started by dingyibvs, Nov 11, 2010.

  1. Tam
    Offline

    Tam Captain
    Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2016
    Messages:
    2,666
    Likes Received:
    4,734
    Five new Type 056A of the new batch (056AG? 056A+) in Hudong Zhonghua, and we see four new Type 056A of the new batch in Guandong Huangpu.

    Tweet by @horobeyo.

    https://twitter.com/horobeyo/status/1195648137651572736

    The image cannot be uploaded to SDF being 1.8Mb, so I'm using Imgur.

    [​IMG]


    If the Type 056/056A batch ended with the 60th ship, the 61st ship and above are the new batch with all the improved electronics. Along with ship pennant 610, that means around 70 overall has been built, with 10 of the latest batch.
     
  2. by78
    Offline

    by78 Brigadier

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2014
    Messages:
    5,813
    Likes Received:
    34,168
    Update from Hudong.

    (2048 × 1558)
    [​IMG]
     
    antiterror13, mr.bean, jobjed and 2 others like this.
  3. Tam
    Offline

    Tam Captain
    Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2016
    Messages:
    2,666
    Likes Received:
    4,734
    5 on that side of the river (previous pic) plus two on this side of the river. Pic by by78 from the Type 075 thread.

    49204458297_a4cf5fda75_k.jpg

    But wait, there is only one in this side of the picture, but there used to be two. The other one, Pennant no. 610, has already been commissioned lately.

    So Hudong as of last month, had a total of seven Improved Type 056A in fitting. Add four from Guandong Huangpu, that's more than 10. This does not look like Type 056A production is winding down.

    Do expect that 608 from the previous post would be commissioned soon.
     
    FactsPlease likes this.
  4. asif iqbal
    Offline

    asif iqbal Brigadier

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2006
    Messages:
    8,987
    Likes Received:
    9,033
    Tam I think you are correct I observed that too
     
  5. Tam
    Offline

    Tam Captain
    Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2016
    Messages:
    2,666
    Likes Received:
    4,734
    xiyanz likes this.
  6. Bhurki
    Offline

    Bhurki Junior Member
    Registered Member

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2018
    Messages:
    393
    Likes Received:
    393
    610 is first ship from improved batch 3 and 21st of 056a subclass.(apart from 22 standard 056)
    608 is recently numbered and will be commissioned likely along with 606,607,617,621 from hudong.
    Total 41 in water and another 12 being built.
     
  7. by78
    Offline

    by78 Brigadier

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2014
    Messages:
    5,813
    Likes Received:
    34,168
    ASW warfare.

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
    mr.bean, jobjed and antiterror13 like this.
  8. Tam
    Offline

    Tam Captain
    Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2016
    Messages:
    2,666
    Likes Received:
    4,734
    Tweet by @mssn65 leads to JP BBS.

    https://twitter.com/jpg2t785/status/1209302320640487424

    https://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/sports/37992/1563188093/182

    Which in turn leads to the original source.

    https://new.qq.com/omn/20190623/20190623A0F2QB.html

    Discussion is about whether the new Type 056A improved models were cutting costs shifting to 14.5mm machine guns from their 30mm cannons.



    056型护卫舰惊现新变化,14.5重机枪比单30炮火力还猛?
    于2013年2月开始入役的056型轻型护卫舰,如今服役年限已到了第六个年头,总体上海军对这款轻护的性能还是满意的,不然也不会持续下饺子至今。而反潜加强版056A型,是056型的第一次大改,如今该舰又出现了新变化。

    [​IMG]056型护卫舰的30mm炮开火

    在最近官媒的报道中,发现新批次056轻护撤下了30mm单管副炮,在原位置安装上了14.5mm双管重机枪。056型护卫舰在两舷各布置有一门H/PJ-17型30mm单管副炮,它是我国研制的一款小口径舰炮,于2010年定型,2011年开始试装补给舰,随后列装护卫舰,该炮也是我国最后一种单管30mm舰炮。

    H/PJ-17型30mm单管舰炮,其火控系统有雷达和光电两种信道,有自动光电导引站。主要作用是消灭漂雷,打击小型快速舰艇目标,拦截无人机、直升机等,具有高射速的特点。而今056型护卫舰撤下这款舰炮,此情此景只能说明,单30副炮作战效能或不太理想,或者配置过高,总之不太适合于056型护卫舰。

    [​IMG]056型护卫舰的30mm炮开火

    替换30mm舰炮的这款重机枪,是02式14.5mm重机枪的改进型,采用双管设计,具有射速快、火力密度高的特点,这几年新款双14.5mm重机已在海军辅助舰船上使用,用于护卫舰还是首次。为发挥14.5mm机枪的威力,设计者为其开发了脱壳穿甲燃烧弹和穿甲燃烧爆炸弹,使其作战性能大为提高。

    据悉,新14.5重机当初曾和25mm高射炮PK,结果两者射击效果相当,但14.5重机具有结构简单,操作与维护方便,弹舱容量更大,最主要是价格便宜等方面优势。之前很多人期待056轻护能上630近防炮,如今看来不但没有,而且还被简配了,再怎么说30mm舰炮也比14.5mm机枪要高大上。

    [​IMG]14.5双管重机枪开火

    不过,如今056轻护就是个打杂的,在主力驱护舰数量上之后,真正作战是用不上轻护的。若14.5重机作战效能和30mm炮相差不大,那么用30炮就是浪费。对于056轻护来说,30炮有点不上不下的,特别是双管14.5重机有了新弹药,执行护渔、反小艇、打水雷都能胜任,这些年14.5mm重机在亚丁湾护航中用得很多,性能得到了验证。

    整体看,056轻型护卫舰前有76mm主炮,后有红旗-10近防导弹,两座30舰炮反导指望不上,打小艇火力有余,主要是价格成本高。而从图上看,辅助舰上的14.5mm双管重机没有光电瞄准系统,后续056舰会不会配备不得而知,这货造价不菲,多列装点有利于降低成本!

     
  9. Tam
    Offline

    Tam Captain
    Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2016
    Messages:
    2,666
    Likes Received:
    4,734
    Translation:

    056 follow-up ship was simply fitted because of lack of money? The truth is just the opposite, this is actually a luxury version


    [​IMG]
    Reading: 056 follow-up ship was short-matched because of lack of money? The truth is just the opposite, this is actually a luxury version



    As the largest type of naval vessel produced by the Chinese navy in recent years, the Type 056 light frigate known as the "Animal Flow" homonym has been under construction, launched and commissioned nearly 60 ships in just 7 years after exposure. And quickly became our navy's absolute main force active in offshore waters. In its mass production process that lasted for many years, not only has there been a big modification of the 056A, which added active and passive towed sonar and anti-submarine deep bomb launchers, but also a small upgrade model with some subsystems enhanced.

    [​IMG](During the large-scale construction process, 056 also appeared many improvements)

    With the recent appearance of the latest batch of 056A light frigates, the outside has found that the batch has a slight difference in shipborne equipment from the previous type. The main difference between them is that the H / PJ-17 single-tube 30mm semi-automatic gun, which was originally installed on both sides of the bridge, looked very fashionable, and was replaced by a humble 14.5mm machine gun. The discovery of this seemingly simple castration immediately sparked widespread discussion. Most of them believe that the behavior of the 056A follow-up ship, which is simply equipped with shipborne weapons, is to reduce costs.

    [​IMG](Single-tube 30 guns replaced by 14.5 machine guns do not represent castration of the entire ship)

    However, many people did not understand that although the new batch of 056A simplified the original single 30 mm naval gun, correspondingly, they also upgraded other subsystems of the ship to a certain extent. Among them, the pictures show that the new batch of 056A shipborne electronic warfare systems has obvious differences in antenna matching compared to the original SRW-210A. The new system is likely to increase the radar jamming ability based on the SRW-210A's alarm only, which will enable it to have more countermeasures when conducting anti-ship missile defense.

    [​IMG](The new electronic warfare system is likely to increase radar interference capabilities)

    In addition, the new batch of 056A has also undergone huge changes in the shipborne communication sub-system linked to the degree of informationization. First of all, the new ship has added a 622A UHF-band tactical satellite communication system, which is standard on the new generation of surface ships in the center of the bridge compass deck. Secondly, the Ku-band strategic satellite communication antenna behind the flue has also been upgraded to a new standard. It can be said that as a thousand-ton light frigate, the configuration of the new batch of 056A satellite communication systems is enough to be on par with the 6,500-ton destroyer 052D.

    [​IMG](Shipborne satellite communication system has also been upgraded to the level of 052D)

    Therefore, in summary, in addition to the 056A's follow-up ship, in addition to the insignificant single 30 mm gun, it was simply equipped with a 14.5 mm machine gun. It has been greatly strengthened in terms of electronic warfare systems that can reflect the ship's self-defense capabilities, as well as communication systems linked to the degree of informatization. The so-called simplified version of the ship-borne weapon configuration 056A is just a blindfold conclusion. From the overall height of the ship, these new batches of 056A light frigates deservedly belong to a further luxury configuration version.


     
  10. Tam
    Offline

    Tam Captain
    Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2016
    Messages:
    2,666
    Likes Received:
    4,734
    My take on it.

    Type 622A is probably the first clue to the designation of these antennas which I believe is high speed data or CEC. No way that a UHF satcom would look like that. This is how a UHF satcom would look like.

    uhfsatcom_400x400.jpg

    SRW-210A is also another clue to the designation of the ESM units attached to the mast of the 056. However, this is also referred to as Type 726-1 ESM. This unit alone is ESM and no ECM or jamming ability. The addition of new antennas on top of the ESM unit likely means an improvement in their acquisition, directional, range and frequency determination of the unit, but they are not likely to add a jamming capability to the unit.

    As for the SATCOMs behind the funnel, the SATCOMs across the PLAN ships are always the same regardless whether its a 052D, 054A or 056A or even the 055. They have always been equal across the scale. The replacement of the Ku-band unit to a larger Ku-band unit is however, not seen on the 052D ships...I still have to look at the Ku-band unit on the 052DL, which has been relocated to the top of the hanger, it may reflect this change. The Liaoning has changed some of her SATCOMs to bigger ones, so that is more consistent with the SATCOM changes on the 056A, and some of the 054A have additional SATCOMs or has changed to an even newer antenna.

    Overall, for the loss of the 30mm guns in exchange for the machine guns, the improved 056A gains significantly improved electronic capabilities, regardless.
     
Loading...

Share This Page