056 class FFL/corvette

antiterror13 said:

Yes, I noticed that as well, so we are looking at 2x 3x3 = 18 men operating CIC for 056 + 1 or 2 supervisors
A bit too many in my opinion. Would it be possible it is a 056 CIC simulator ?

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Why are that many consoles too many for a 056? Even the 056A/+ that have the additional ASW equipment?

The ceiling background in the earlier picture and the hallway background through the door in the later picture both look like they are actually on a ship. Of course it doesn't mean they have to be on a 056.

antiterror13 said:

Yes, I noticed that as well, so we are looking at 2x 3x3 = 18 men operating CIC for 056 + 1 or 2 supervisors
A bit too many in my opinion. Would it be possible it is a 056 CIC simulator ?

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I'm not sure about your maths.

Looks more like 6 in the front row, and probably less in the second because of the clearance needed for the hatch. So its more likely 6 in the front and 4 at the back.

But even if we assume the same number of consoles and operators, we are looking at 12 operators, with 2-3 supervisors/command staff, assuming they don't have their own console stations.

In addition, you need to factor in that not every one of those consoles needs to be manned 24/7, as I imagine they would want a few as spares so if some consoles goes down during combat or an emergency, they can switch to the standbys and still maintain full operational efficiency.

plawolf said:

I'm not sure about your maths.

Looks more like 6 in the front row, and probably less in the second because of the clearance needed for the hatch. So its more likely 6 in the front and 4 at the back.

But even if we assume the same number of consoles and operators, we are looking at 12 operators, with 2-3 supervisors/command staff, assuming they don't have their own console stations.

In addition, you need to factor in that not every one of those consoles needs to be manned 24/7, as I imagine they would want a few as spares so if some consoles goes down during combat or an emergency, they can switch to the standbys and still maintain full operational efficiency.

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I appreciate your comment, but if you look at (again) the photo (the last one), on the left edge of the photo, it clearly shows another consoles and I assume it would be 3 consoles. So 9 in the front and 9 at the back

antiterror13 said:

I appreciate your comment, but if you look at (again) the photo (the last one), on the left edge of the photo, it clearly shows another consoles and I assume it would be 3 consoles. So 9 in the front and 9 at the back

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Fair enough, but what makes you think it has to be another 3 consoles?

Those are all individual units with no indication that have to be linked as banks of 3.

From a photographic POV, it also doesn't make a great deal of sense to do a shot like that half way down the room.

You usually want to capture the whole thing, or as much as you can, so the photographer would be pressed right up against the bulkhead as far back as he can get. which ties in to only a partial shot of the last console.

plawolf said:

Fair enough, but what makes you think it has to be another 3 consoles?

Those are all individual units with no indication that have to be linked as banks of 3.

From a photographic POV, it also doesn't make a great deal of sense to do a shot like that half way down the room.

You usually want to capture the whole thing, or as much as you can, so the photographer would be pressed right up against the bulkhead as far back as he can get. which ties in to only a partial shot of the last console.

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so you agreed that at the front minimum have 7 consoles and potentially 9, I tend to believe it would be 9 as it seems to me a bank for 3 consoles and the front has 3 banks
I agree at the back should have 1 bank less .... so 9 + 6 = 15 consoles

antiterror13 said:

so you agreed that at the front minimum have 7 consoles and potentially 9, I tend to believe it would be 9 as it seems to me a bank for 3 consoles and the front has 3 banks
I agree at the back should have 1 bank less .... so 9 + 6 = 15 consoles

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From those pictures, I see 6 consoles in the front row (2 beyond the large grey cabinet, and 4 after it, including the partially visible one.

As I said before, the second row bank of consoles do not extend all the way to the far bulkhead as the front row does, because of the hatch and clearance needed for personnel to enter and exit the room. So I would suggest the second row contains fewer consoles, maybe as few as 3, potentially 5 at a squeeze.

Even if we allow for the same number of consoles, that only makes 12 maximum.

But realistically, I would expect a second hatch on the opposite side on the room to the visible one, or else the room represents a serious fire hazard. Even if the second hatch is to the rear of the room as opposed to be on the opposite side to the visible hatch, you still want at least two clear routes for foot traffic to be able to get to all exits.

All this means that I expect the second row of consoles to have clearance on both sides to allow the operators quick and easily accessible mutiple exit routes, so I would be surprised if it contained more than 3-4 consoles to be honest.

If I was designing that CIC, I would have the 6 primary operators up front, with the 3-4 behind them acting as command consoles for the captain, first officer etc to.

Those being command consoles could also mean that they have bigger and/or more screens than the basic operator ones, so there might be room for 4 basic consoles, but maybe that only equates to 3 command consoles.

No matter how you cut it, 12 is the maximum theoretical number of consoles based on that picture, with the reality probably between 9-10.

Maybe 2 more next to number 8, and 10. Total numbers should be 10-12 consoles to me.

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