054/A FFG Thread II

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jobjed said:
New PLAN vessels are built to a very high quality commensurate with Chinese advances in shipbuilding. It will take a loooong time for the 054A hulls to deteriorate to a degree where the PLAN feels comfortable retiring them. By then, the 054A will be sorely obsolete and the PN would be better off just asking China to build them brand new 057s/054Bs or allow ToT for Pakistan to build it domestically.
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Yup, just like now PN is getting new 054As rather going for remaing 053s or 054s....
 
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Pop3 went into quite a bit of detail about the 054A
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yesterday, revealing some details while affirming quite a few assumptions we've had about the 054A.

Key points below:

  • 054A is the most capable ASW vessel in PLAN service
  • Construction on lead ship began in late 2003
  • Normal displacement 3600t
  • Top speed greater than 27 knots
  • Diesel propulsion units are mounted on vibration isolators
  • Diesel generators are mounted on dual-layered vibration isolators, all wrapped within an acoustic shroud
  • The ship has three standard sailing modes, one of which is the silent mode for use during ASW operations
  • Sailing speed during ASW operations is at or below cruising speed, which is much lower than the top speed
  • Sensor suite includes Type 307 bow sonar, Type 206 TAS, Type 064 communications sonar, Type 707A acoustic field analyser, and Type 723 vessel surroundings monitoring sonar
  • Type 206's max detection range is greater than 65km and max targeting range is greater than 60km, can operate in conditions up to and including sea state 5, and possesses detection capability of enemy torpedoes at ranges exceeding 10km
  • Newer examples have upgraded sensors including Type 311 TAS, Type 066 communications sonar, etc
  • 054A is equipped with two sets of WHH003A 6-tube ASW rocket launchers with max range of 3130m and attack depth of 300m, used for attacking close submarines and intercepting torpedoes
  • Each side of the ship is equipped with a VJQ-004B triple-tube torpedo-launcher, capable of firing Yu-7/A/B/C torpedoes with ranges of around 10km
  • Yu-8 ASROC has max range greater than 50km
  • Yu-8 project commissioned in 2002 and achieved design certification by 2006
  • Z-9C ASW helicopter has operating radius of 50km, Ka-28's is 200km
  • 054A is equipped with SJK-562 torpedo-defence system, consisting of the Type 231 torpedo-approach warning and tracking system, Type 576A acoustic decoy, Type 578 rocket-launched acoustic decoy, Type 579 rocket-launched jammer, and the aforementioned WHH003A hard-kill system
  • The PLAN is nowhere near as behind in ASW as commonly believed by many Western commentators and have commissioned dedicated ASW vessels, although I still haven't identified which ones pop3 is talking about
  • There is still a gap between the PLAN and leading ASW powers but that gap mostly exists due to insufficient ASW fixed-wing aircraft, which the PLAN is already in the process of remedying
  • All concrete figures given by pop3 are for systems that are being phased out, which is the only reason he was willing to give out those figures in the first place
 
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Klon said:
fzgfzy
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that close to 24 Type 054B frigates have been ordered.
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Full translation:
  • Close to two dozen orders
  • IEPS
  • Integrated mast
  • Upgrades in radar and other electronics
  • Better ASW performance due to IEPS
  • Displacement slightly more than 054A
  • Upgrades in armament but numbers and position remain identical - I assume he means 32 VLS located fore of ship
 
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Amazing !!

Let's hope Type 075 and Type 054B are seen this year

Maybe the production of Type 054A can continue for export orders

If they get 3 in the water to fulfill the 32 units in 2018 then 2 next year for PN with 2 at KSEW
 
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Klon said:
fzgfzy
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that close to 24 Type 054B frigates have been ordered.
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jobjed said:
Full translation:
  • Close to two dozen orders
  • IEPS
  • Integrated mast
  • Upgrades in radar and other electronics
  • Better ASW performance due to IEPS
  • Displacement slightly more than 054A
  • Upgrades in armament but numbers and position remain identical - I assume he means 32 VLS located fore of ship
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twenty plus IEP frigates ordered ... that's breaking news to me ... earlier this afternoon I noticed, but didn't get, the tweet
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The order of Type 054B frigate is close to 24 vessels.
 
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(CGI of Type 054B, I presume)
 
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damitch300 said:
I doubt that large gun will be mounted on the 054b...
I guess they would still choose a 76
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if it is ~5K displacement and 2x 20MW propulsion ... I don't see why not?, cost wise not too much different

Interesting whether it will have UVLS... I'd guess so.

Also it may have 4/8 YJ-18 as shown in the CGI

Also interesting whether it will have HHQ-10 short range SAM in 24-cell launcher ?

Thats will be very cool frigate!, perhaps the best Frigate out there
 
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