PLAN Type 052C/052D Class Destroyers

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  1. PanAsian
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    China's maritime geography is simply too militarily disadvantageous so it must always maintain a numerically large "garrison" force to secure the seas within the 1st island chain, they also need a significant "forward defense" force if they want to contend the seas between the 1st and 2nd island chains in order to truly secure the seas within the 1st island chain. In order to do so economically it makes sense for them to have a near seas hi-lo and far seas hi-lo ship types.

    It may eventually make sense to combine the near-hi and far-lo ship types into a single one if China sees a higher threat environment and is willing to invest more in such a capability. AA and missile defense needs will be primary drivers for such an investment. The carriers and AA surface combatants would be more equal escorts for each other rather than necessarily the latter escorting the former.
     
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    Let's continue the discussion here

    https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/plan-surface-combatants-2020.t8082/page-3#post-553958
     
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    From the PDF, posted by LKJ86.

    DDG 131 Taiyuan, one of the new batch of Type 052D, doesn't have enough photos taken. Note the Type 1130 CIWS, the boom less radar panels and the capsule shaped ESM. Below, a new picture of the Dalian shipyard.

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    DL like to do double launches

    We see the empty slots

    No doubt like last time the Type 055 and Type 052DL will be floated and brought into the position from where the recent DDG were launched

    We will then see keel of the next units being laid
     
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    High-resolution magazine scans of 052Ds at Qingdao for the naval review...

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    You were spot on on about the new radar being double-sided

    Posted by LKJ86 at PDF

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    How many meters ?

    Can take Z18?
     
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    According to Chinese wiki the difference between length of the earlier 052D's and the latest batch is 4 metres (156m vs 160m)
     
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    Since I am obsessed with naval helicopters I wonder if China ever explored the possibility of adding in a Flexible mission space (FMS) like the Type 26

    Adding in 2 dual hangers with such a mission bay would mean 3 x Z18 sized helicopters

    Might be difficult on Type 052D but with the Type 055 that would have been great

    That’s only 1 less helicopter than the Type 071 LPD

    A formation of 4 x Type 055 would therefore be able to carry 12 x Z18 sized helicopters.

    https://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/the-type-26-frigate-mission-bay-part-1-design-and-development/
     
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