PLAN Type 052C/052D Class Destroyers

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    Speculative on the 052E. These YouTube videos probably got the text somewhere but I don't know where. Speculative art on how the 052E might look like, the illustrations look like a kitbash of a 052D and a 055 using the 055's integrated mast, SSR ring, and funnel design on the 052D type hull. The video has a few art designs. I don't think the design with a SMART-L type array in the aft is the way forward, I suspect that although such a radar project may have been worked on (based on an official model of an export 052D proposal), it may have been canceled and not accepted by the PLAN, hence its absence on the 055.

    Technically the video is awful, uses a robot voice typical of many military news YT videos, reciting text that was copied off from somewhere not attributed. But I do like to present the illustrations of how an 052X hull with the 055 integrated mast looks like, and I think the 052X with an integrated mast is the future direction of the line, though the real design of the mast may still differ.




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    Last sentence makes no sense since you would still need some kind of C or X band radar for surface scanning and for navigation, in order to resolve small ships and objects on or flying low near the water surface. It would also be contrary to a design if you have the 055's integrated mast.

    Speaking of the integrated mast, in my opinion, I would have rotated the mast so that instead of being square with the axis of the ship, it would be diagonal or diamond to the axis, turning the faces into diagonal positions and with the same angle as the main Type 346 panels. That may also reduce the mast's RCS to the front and sides.
     
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    It's from Sina Military, not the best source either. The last bit about the integrated mast is that 052E's mast would be designed based on the 055 mast but will not equip X band radar to reduce cost.
     
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    The last part doesn't sound right since you would need an X-band radar for your gunnery and antiship missile fire control, as well as surface scanning. Unless they mean they won't put an X-band AESA radar there and go back ---- more like retaining ---- the mechanical fire control radars used on the 052C/D, the Type 344 and 366, which are both on X-band. Respectively they are used for gunnery and antiship missiles. That's not much of an improvement over the 052C/D. I would think they would cancel the Type 364 radar that sits on the top of the 052C/D mast, since this means the Type 055 type mast won't be having any radar at all without the X-band, the only sensors being the ESM stalks it has on top. To replace the Type 364 which acts as a surface search radar (SSR) it would have to have that ring of arrays on top the bridge, like you see on the 055. The 052C/D carries its jammers on the mast too, but the 055 type mast doesn't. This means the ECM array would now be set on the side of the superstructure, much like we think the 055 does.

    This is similar to the fan CGIs in the video or Sina article but you have to erase the X-band array from the top mast and put back the Type 366 dome and the Type 344 radars from the 052C/D.
     
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    A 052D under construction at Dalian. Judging from previous photos, this should be 119.

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    The 052D on the left must be one of the recently commissioned ones, without the calibration booms on the main arrays. I suspect ship no. 161.
     
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    Posted by LKJ86 from the PDF. Shipbucket style art for the 052B to D series.
     
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    052B/052C/052D/052D(PJ-11 CIWS)/052D(G)
     
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