052C/052D Class Destroyers

vesicles said:

I agree. I also don’t see any issues with their consoles. As you can see, the bottom monitors are positioned at the sailors’ eye levels. That should be fine.

I also don’t see any problem with the sailors having to position their arms up a little. In fact, placing their arms higher forces them to sit up straight, which is key to not damaging their backs. When they sit too “comfortably”, their backs are inevitably more hunched, which is NOT good to their backs.

I am very experienced with using microscopes. When I was in grad school, I used to spend more than 10 hours/day in front of a microscope at a time. The first lesson I got from my advisor was that I needed to position the binoculars on the microscope higher. This way, I would have to sit up straight in front of the scope. When I now train my students and postdocs, I always emphasize that they need to position the microscope higher so that they don’t damage their backs.

Of course, I have colleagues who like to sit more “comfortably” at the scope, with the binocular eye piece positioned slightly below their eye level and their arms comfortably resting on the table at a slightly lower level. And they do this, their backs are always hunched. And almost always, these people complain about back pain after sitting at the microscope for a long time (more than 3-4 hours).

As you can see in the photo, these sailors sit up with their backs straight. This is a good posture to protect their backs.

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Hendrik_2000 said:

I don't see a problem here they have primary and secondary console The primary console is right where they should be So what is the problem I think you are the one that has problem
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vesicles said:

I agree. I also don’t see any issues with their consoles. As you can see, the bottom monitors are positioned at the sailors’ eye levels. That should be fine.

I also don’t see any problem with the sailors having to position their arms up a little. In fact, placing their arms higher forces them to sit up straight, which is key to not damaging their backs. When they sit too “comfortably”, their backs are inevitably more hunched, which is NOT good to their backs.

I am very experienced with using microscopes. When I was in grad school, I used to spend more than 10 hours/day in front of a microscope at a time. The first lesson I got from my advisor was that I needed to position the binoculars on the microscope higher. This way, I would have to sit up straight in front of the scope. When I now train my students and postdocs, I always emphasize that they need to position the microscope higher so that they don’t damage their backs.

Of course, I have colleagues who like to sit more “comfortably” at the scope, with the binocular eye piece positioned slightly below their eye level and their arms comfortably resting on the table at a slightly lower level. And they do this, their backs are always hunched. And almost always, these people complain about back pain after sitting at the microscope for a long time (more than 3-4 hours).

As you can see in the photo, these sailors sit up with their backs straight. This is a good posture to protect their backs.

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Iron Man said:

... work fatigue.

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Iron Man said:

Of course only a fanboi like you would see nothing but perfection in the objects of his worship.

You also moronically drew a line that isn't even perpendicular to the plane of the screen. Do you even have any idea what you are doing? LOL Here let me fix it for you:

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Hendrik_2000 said:

I work with computer all day and we are required to take ergonomic computer class every 6 month to know the proper way to work with computer Or else we can't work. I know what I am doing You take the straight line from you eye to 2 in below the monitor edge and that should be horizontal and parallel to the floor

I also instrumentation and control panel designer at one time secondary panel or console is for reference only the primary console is the one that you work all the time so that is the main console

Do you know what you are doing other than bad mouthing everything has to do with Chinese design!
here I give you primer on ergonomic

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4. Place the top line of the screen at or slightly (0-30 degrees) below eye level.
According to ergonomics expert and professor Dr. Alan Hedge, “When you are seated comfortably, a user’s eyes should be in line with a point on the screen about 2-3″ below the top of the monitor casing (not the screen). Sit back in your chair at an angle of around 100-110 degrees (i.e. slight recline) and hold your right arm out horizontally, your middle finger should almost touch the center of the screen. From that starting position you can then make minor changes to screen height and angle to suit. Research shows the center of the monitor should be about 17-18 degrees

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Untoldpain said:

Is the entire setup ergonomic? No.
Does it impact combat effectiveness in any significant way? No.

Case closed, move on.

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Iron Man said:

From the photos it is abundantly clear that the PLAN personnel in that photo are experiencing significant shoulder flexion and abduction as well as back flexion, all of which contribute to work fatigue.

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