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Hendrik_2000

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Are they using renewable power sources like solar/wind as well?

They do on other island but not to run the desalination plant not enough juice. Maybe they used diesel engine
In the future they will use small nuclear power plant for sure work in underway now
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China will make commercial floating nuclear reactors and reactors for nuclear military ships
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| August 16, 2017 |
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A consortium of Chinese organizations is teaming up with state-owned China National Nuclear Power Company to develop and produce small, floating nuclear power plants.

The new venture will have $150 million in funding and will include Zhejiang Zheneng Electric Power, Shanghai Guosheng Group, Shanghai-based Jiangnan Shipyard Group and Shanghai Electric Group.

The plants will be able to sail to where they are needed and could be used to operate drilling equipment for offshore oil and gas fields, to power facilities on the remote islands of the South China Sea, to meet heating and desalination needs or to run nuclear-powered icebreakers.

The reactors may also be exported to economies with large populations but scarce land resources, including economies participating in the Belt and Road Initiative, such as Pakistan, Bangladesh and Myanmar.

The technology used may involve high temperature gas-cooled reactors which China is jointly developing with Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

China is expected to build 20 floating nuclear power stations.

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the development of nuclear-powered vessels including a nuclear powered aircraft carrier.

China emphasized in its announcement that the floating reactors have commercial uses,. They can be used to operate drilling machinery for offshore oil and gas fields, and remote power and desalination needs. These objectives are expected to bring investors to support the new venture and with the parallel support from the military as the first customer for the plants, the effort seems positioned for growth.


He said it would also make them safer. According to Buongiorno. a reactor anchored on the seabed would never lack emergency cooling, the problem that caused the Fukushima meltdown. Nor would it need to be protected against the risk of terrorists flying an aircraft into it. It would be tsunami-proof, too. Though tsunamis become great and destructive waves when they arrive in shallow water, in the open ocean they are mere ripples.

Buongiorno goes further and suggests that the reactors could be built in a shipyard and then towed to their destination, and then sunk in place. Once underwater (100 meters or so), such a submarine reactor would not even be affected by passing storms.

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Dizasta1

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I have some reservations about the idea of having Nuclear Reactors floating in the sea. If we are to learn anything from history, then we ought not to forget Fukushima catastrophe. China must have some rock solid contingencies in place, more importantly to incorporate into the design of the floating nuclear reactors, to be safeguarded from potential threat of powerful Cyclone descending on South China Sea. Tsunamis are another threat to floating Nuclear Reactors and unless they are purpose built to be protected against such natural weather phenomenon. Then we can kiss the marine life, eco-systems of South China Sea and South Pacific, goodbye.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
I have some reservations about the idea of having Nuclear Reactors floating in the sea. If we are to learn anything from history, then we ought not to forget Fukushima catastrophe. China must have some rock solid contingencies in place, more importantly to incorporate into the design of the floating nuclear reactors, to be safeguarded from potential threat of powerful Cyclone descending on South China Sea. Tsunamis are another threat to floating Nuclear Reactors and unless they are purpose built to be protected against such natural weather phenomenon. Then we can kiss the marine life, eco-systems of South China Sea and South Pacific, goodbye.

It is a ship If there is storm they can move away from cyclone zone . The same thing with Tzunami they just sail to deeper water where the effect of Tzunami is negligible
 

jacksprat

New Member
I can understand them being able to avoid the worst effects of a typhoon, but depending on where the quake happened there might not be enough time warning time for a tsunami. Probably rare enough in SCS but outside of there maybe not.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
I don't know what all the freak out is about considering every nuclear sub and carrier are all floating (or even submerged) nuclear power plants.

Chinese floating nuclear power plants will spend most of their lives stationary if all goes well, but the whole point to them is that they will have self-motive capabilities and can get out of dodge if a major storm or other hazardous event threatens the area they were operating in.

A floating nuclear power plant is designed specifically to be able to simply avoid major storms or tsunamis that traditional fixed nuclear plants could not by moving out of the way. So would be the safest way to provide nuclear power for small islands.

I dare say Fukushima might not have happened had the power plant there been a floating moveable one rather than fixed, as it should have been able to get to safe distance from shore to simple ride over the wave in the 50 minutes it took for the wave to arrive after the earthquake.

Tsunami only form when the shockwave reaches the shallows near land. Even a few dozen miles from shore, the wave from even the biggest of tsunamis would not pose a threat to shipping.
 

Hendrik_2000

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This should be considered as break thru supplying water is the most urgent task in this small and isolated island!. From people daily
Smart microgrid-based desalination systems installed in Sansha
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Smart microgrid-based desalination systems have been installed in Sansha, China's southernmost city. The system, employing wind power and solar energy, can produce high-quality drinking water out of sea water.

Desalination used to be a high energy-consuming industry. Statistics show that by using conventional energy, it would take 46,600 kilowatt hours to desalinate 10,000 tons of sea water, the equivalent to 18.8 tons of coal and 46.4 tons of carbon dioxide emissions.

In order to have an economical and stable desalination system off the national grid, Jiangsu Fenghai New Energy Seawater Desalination Development Co., Ltd. explored a unique technology that combines a large-capacity generator and small-capacity energy storage system, successfully breaking the energy bottleneck.

The company established China's first 10,000-ton wind-power demonstration project of sea water desalination in Jiangsu province in May 2014, applying an advanced energy management system and a series of storage converters to adjust the load. By doing this, the company found an effective solution to desalinate sea water using new energy.

"Now the demonstration project can desalinate 10,000 tons of sea water per day, including 1,000 tons of vessel water, 8,200 tons of municipal water, and 800 tons of purified water," said Wang Jiafu, research and development manager of the company.

Later, the company upgraded the 10,000-ton device, transforming the mega project into one that could be applied on small islands.

According to Wang, the company reduced the size of the device and packed it into a container which could be operated off the national power grid. "It's like a computer, ready for use once connected with wires and tubes," Wang explained.

In addition, the container-style system's anti-corrosion and high-temperature resistance technologies make it typhoon proof. The device could enable people to survive on any isolated island.
 
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Hendrik_2000

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The first known model of floating nuclear power plant. The demand for electricity is enormous for those island and or military base. They need this ASAP. NO wonder this project is fast track
From Henri K
The 719 Institute of the CSIC Naval Group presents what it seems to be a floating nuclear power plant, dedicated to the South China Sea.
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Hendrik_2000

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Now with this UAV they can solve the problem of resupplying the outlaying garrison on the island with essential like medicine,sundry, rice, noodle, mail With pay load of 250Kg and range of 1250 Mile It can enough load and cover most of SCS
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A Chinese company is pushing the boundaries of what drones can do out over the sea.
Shanghai UVS Intelligence System is set to become the first company in the world to bring to market a commercial drone that's able to take off and land on water. It says the roughly 20-foot long unmanned seaplane, known as the U650, could be used by businesses and the military.

The U650 drones should be rolling off factory production lines in Shanghai by the end of the year, a company spokeswoman told CNNMoney. That would put UVS ahead of other firms that have developed amphibious drones but haven't yet moved beyond prototypes into production, according to analysts.

The U650 can stay in the air for up to 15 hours, flying as far as 2,000 kilometers (1,240 miles), according to the company. But heavy cargoes will reduce those numbers.

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UVS sees delivery firms as one set of potential customers.

Like Amazon (
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) are aggressively pursuing the use of drones in their supply chains.

UVS Intelligence System said it has contracts with several clients, but would not disclose further details.

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Shanghai UVS Intelligence System's U650 amphibious drone


The U650 can carry up to 550 pounds of cargo, but it will face limits on where exactly it can go.

Because of its size, the new drone won't be able to fly in the same airspace as manned aircraft, which will "restrict a lot of potential use," said Kelvin Wong, an analyst with research firm IHS Markit.

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The U650 may also appeal to the Chinese government, which has been building up man-made islands in disputed areas of the South China Sea.

The drones would be able to carry out surveillance and deliver supplies, which "comes in handy because you don't have a lot of runway in those environments," Wong said.
 
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