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Re: RAAF monitored Chinese military exercise in waters between Christmas Island and I
I printed links to those announcements and pictures of the ships involved on this very thread, that were dated February 3rd, eleven days ago. My guess is that the releases that those stories were based upon were sent out a day or two before they went out in the press. So, I would say that the planned exercises of these ships in question in those waters has been known in the press for about two weeks.
Well, the Chinese did announce their intentions for these vessels in advance.
I printed links to those announcements and pictures of the ships involved on this very thread, that were dated February 3rd, eleven days ago. My guess is that the releases that those stories were based upon were sent out a day or two before they went out in the press. So, I would say that the planned exercises of these ships in question in those waters has been known in the press for about two weeks.
I would say that this is a clear example of the growing warm relationship between Beijing and Jakarta and comes as no surprise whatsoever. Indonesia is the regional heavyweight in ASEAN and China knows that by cultivating a close friend there, that much of the rest will follow suit.
Indonesia is another large country and a big player in the MINT league. It also knows that its emergence will also change the status quo and that established powers will not welcome this. From this alone (excluding the multitude of other economic mutual interests) Jakarta has common cause with Beijing and is forming policy accordingly.
PS Forgot to applaud Julie Bishop for her grown up response. Its almost refreshing!
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For me it means what it is - Chinese vessels sailed through the Sunda.
And your conclusions fail a big time.
Blackstone
Brigadier
Re: RAAF monitored Chinese military exercise in waters between Christmas Island and I
Other articles in the US Press said transparency wasn't an issue, because the event was well covered by the Chinese media. Australia's problem is the PLAN squadron roamed around it's NW space and made them a little nervous.
Other articles in the US Press said transparency wasn't an issue, because the event was well covered by the Chinese media. Australia's problem is the PLAN squadron roamed around it's NW space and made them a little nervous.
Re: RAAF monitored Chinese military exercise in waters between Christmas Island and I
Exactly.
...and that point is:
"We have the wherewithall now to have our modern ships appear in international waters anywhere in the Western Pacific."
But, honestly, everyone knew this was coming. It should not be a surprise. And the Australian Foreign Affairs Minister is right. The PLAN is simply using their vessels in peace time in the same way any other maritime power does.
Exactly.
They had little to worry about from those two destroyers and the LPD with one LCAC. It was a training exercise and the PRC used it to also make a simple point.
...and that point is:
"We have the wherewithall now to have our modern ships appear in international waters anywhere in the Western Pacific."
But, honestly, everyone knew this was coming. It should not be a surprise. And the Australian Foreign Affairs Minister is right. The PLAN is simply using their vessels in peace time in the same way any other maritime power does.
Rutim, like any other member, you are entitled to express your opinion (within the bounds of the forum rules) and to disagree/challenge the expressed opinions of others.
I like any other member, am entitled to receive that disagreement in a form that is polite and gentlemanly. The "Epic Fail" form of response falls therefore far short of the high standard that this forum maintains and expects for its discourse.
If you have a counter argument, please present it in the appropriate manner. Otherwise you would be well advised to withdraw your rather childish remark.
I just meant that we shouldn't draw any conclusions from the fact that they sailed through the Sunda Strait as I'm sure PLAN planners had that in mind for 10 year and didn't mind mutual relations for a second talking about that.
My point is that by the way you put it PRC and Japan are in all time high close relations.
My point is that by the way you put it PRC and Japan are in all time high close relations.
antiterror13
Brigadier
well, Sunda strait is indeed part of territorial sea of Indonesia. Chine would need an approval from Indonesia Government to pass it