antiterror13
Brigadier
KA-28 purely use for heavy transportation, not for anti-submarine ................
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The quality of workmanship of KA-28 is shocking
PLAN Naval Helicopter & ASW Capability II
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The quality of workmanship of KA-28 is shocking
I think he means used for transport but obviously ASW helos and interesting pic !
But then his statement is wrong or at least misleading when he meant here they are used for COD but not ASW:
More clear... i think he means exceptionnaly used for transport but love the torpedo me not him
Anyone got idea, photo even better, that Ka- series can land on 056? My further thought is: just like PLAN is replacing all HHQ-7 with HHQ-10, what's the possibility Z-9 can be replaced, considering its size and short combat radius? I do read this article claiming even shorter than Chinese-ASROC. Concern is of course about logistics, which now do rise in PLAN strategy, and I think it's a right issue at right timing. I know OTOH it provides flexibility of 3~5 tones. But I don't see any main carrier-operating country using such level. Quick thought...
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Z 9 is medium size helicopter . It has it limitation like it doesn't carry their own on board sonar processing and carry no MAD.But it is still useful with their data link and sonar.
With better dipping sonar range than the Russian Ka 28. It can act as sensor to sniff Submarine with its radar and sonar
In conjunction with Type 56 on board computer and ASROC it is deadly.
China can use Z15 as replacement It is 8 ton and has bigger engine and range as well as more room to carry equipment. It is ready as soon as they certify WZ 16 which will happened this year
Z15 is compact enough to fit into type 56 corvette that is now become the main ASW corvette. See the photo of type 56 and Z9
People make too much of Mil standard But today we see YF 12 now use as military transport with no problem It start life as civilian transport too. BTW YF 12 is the product of Harbin aerospace the same company that produce Z15
General characteristics
- Crew: 1 or 2 pilots
- Capacity: 10 passengers or 1,900 kg (4,189 lb) payload internal, 1,600 kg (3,527 lb) payload slung
- Length: 12.11 m (39 ft 9 in)
- Height: 4.01 m (13 ft 2 in)
- Empty weight: 2,050 kg (4,519 lb)
- Max takeoff weight: 4,100 kg (9,039 lb)
- Powerplant: 2 × turboshaft, 632 kW (848 hp) each
- Main rotor diameter: 11.94 m (39 ft 2 in)
- Main rotor area: 111.98 m2 (1,205.3 sq ft) swept area
- Maximum speed: 305 km/h (190 mph; 165 kn)
- Cruise speed: 260 km/h (162 mph; 140 kn)
- Ferry range: 1,000 km (621 mi; 540 nmi) with internal auxiliary tank
- Endurance: 5 hours
- Service ceiling: 4,500 m (14,800 ft) * Hovering Ceiling in ground effect: 2,600 m (8,530 ft)
- Hovering Ceiling out of ground effect: 1,600 m (5,249 ft)
2 fixed 23 mm Type 23-2 (AM-23) cannon on attack variants. Pylons for rockets, gun pods, , anti-tank missiles, or air-to-air missiles.
Specifications (EC175)[]
Rearview of a H175, 2013
Data from and Airbus Helicopters website
General characteristics
- Crew: 2 pilots
- Capacity: 16/18 passengers
- Length: 15.68 m (fuselage only) 18,06 m (from tip of main rotor to tip of tail rotor) ()
- Rotor diameter: 14.80 m ()
- Height: 3.47 m (5.34 m overall) ()
- Disc area: 172 m² ()
- : 4,603 kg ()
- Loaded weight: 7,500 kg (per type certificate) ()
- : 7,800 kg (16,535 lb
- Fuel capacity: 2,616 L)
- : 2 × , 1,324 kW (1,776 shp) each
- : 315 km/h
- : 285 km/h
- : 1259.36 km (680 , 782.53 mi)
- : 5,500 m ()
50% longer,twice heavier- Z-15's almost full-sized heavy helicopter.
Not everything what "fits" can actually be safely used in foul weather from such platform.
Hard to be sure, but lets see actual operation from such a small vessel first.
p.s. Ka-28 as ASW helicopter is simply old. While it's indeed by far the smallest(excluding height) heavy ASW helicopter in termps of footprint, to be relevant in this role upgraded ones shall be used(like recent Ka-27M). And even if capable to land - you'll still have to somehow feed it.
How much aviation fuel type 56 can carry?