PLAN Naval Aviation Training Facility

Jeff Head

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That was an excellent and beautiful done report on Xingcheng-2 aka Huangdicun.

I must confess I had not noticed the the three 55 x 35 m hangars at 40 30 33 N 120 39 22 E. They are not HAS, though, and not for J-15.

They might be for JL-9G/H or more likely for helicopters.

The 24 shelters for 24 J-15 are at the other end of the airfield, at 40 29 17 N 120 39 02 E. They measure in toto 615 x 35 m. They are the ones you in pictures behind e.g. J-15 556.

The five 41 x 24 m hangars at 29 55 26 N 121 34 05 E house the KA-28/KA-31 that are currently based at Zhuangqiao, but may rebase to Xingcheng-2.
As always, thank you Franco. I will revise accordingly on the hangers, and get the others at the other end of the field shown.

This is going to be an important facility for the PLAN and PRC naval aviation.

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Jeff, are there shelters to house the JZY-01 or its likes?

No, not at this time. They have not been developed and produced yet. This base is more for training pilots to operate off the carrier. Once they do develop thiose aircraft it is possible...perahps probable that training will occur here.

As it is, as Franco-Russe indicated, they are providing hangers for the KA-31 AEW helos (which is what they will be using for AEW on the Liaoning) here to train for carrier operations.
 
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mr.bean

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hey jeff did you forget one facility? remember there is a mockup of the Liaoning flight deck (the bottom half looks like research labs) but it isn't used for aircraft landing like this one here but they installed exact PAR/sensors and we all thought it was used to test/train personel for radar and electronic systems. we had pixs for that facility long time ago but I can't find it.
 

Jeff Head

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hey jeff did you forget one facility? remember there is a mockup of the Liaoning flight deck (the bottom half looks like research labs) but it isn't used for aircraft landing like this one here but they installed exact PAR/sensors and we all thought it was used to test/train personel for radar and electronic systems. we had pixs for that facility long time ago but I can't find it.
Thanks for reminding me.

I had not fogotten about it, just neglected to put it here. I believe they are using that facility for research, and maybe training, for flight deck operations and logistical considerations.

Do you know where that facility is located? I should include it on the larger map and then later do a special article on it seperately. I just do not know as much about it.
 

mr.bean

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Thanks for reminding me.

I had not fogotten about it, just neglected to put it here. I believe they are using that facility for research, and maybe training, for flight deck operations and logistical considerations.

Do you know where that facility is located? I should include it on the larger map and then later do a special article on it seperately. I just do not know as much about it.

I remember it was in the Wuhan Naval Research Facility.
 

Jeff Head

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I remember it was in the Wuhan Naval Research Facility.
Yes, I do know the name...just did not know where it was located. I found it now and put it on the map.

I also discussed it in some detail in my "
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It's at Huangjia Lake outside of Wuhan (just to the south and east).

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Jeff Head

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Updated article per info gathered in this thread

Okay, Franco-Russe, Mr. Bean, and others. I have updated the article with the info we have been sharing in this thread. I believe it is a better, more accurate article as a result. Let me know what you think.
 

asif iqbal

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Good work Jeff Finally someone put together all the info we knew but having it presented like this is very informative!

This is the kind of thing we need to do more of here, catergoise all the information and have it available to hand quickly in a efficient manner

CIA work made easier!
 

Jeff Head

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Good work Jeff Finally someone put together all the info we knew but having it presented like this is very informative!

This is the kind of thing we need to do more of here, catergoise all the information and have it available to hand quickly in a efficient manner!
Thanks, Asif.

I am going to keep updating this one as we know more. I will also do one on the new home port base for the Liaoning, and one on the Wuhan Naval Research Institute with the full size mockup of the Liaoning hanger, deck, and island.

Those three together will make for some interesting reading, and will show how much the PRC is investing in this effort over and above the actual carrier and the aircraft themselves.

They are certainly planning and preparing for the long haul...and have been for many years. We are just seeing the fruits of all of than now in these fcilities.
 

advill

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The Chinese have always been a determined people whether in business or in this case naval air aviation. Chinese businesses took many years of actual trials and errors before successes could be achieved in Asia, and in recent years in some international markets. However in the military, one can have all the training and exercises, BUT the true test of capabilities would be in actual combat with opponent/s. The USAF, USN and other Western Air Forces have these experiences since WW II, and hostilities to date. Besides, pilots of these countries are way ahead in the training with advanced aircraft. But one should never underestimate the Chinese, or the Japanese and South Koreans Air Forces' capabilities in the future.


Yes, I do know the name...just did not know where it was located. I found it now and put it on the map.

I also discussed it in some detail in my "
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It's at Huangjia Lake outside of Wuhan (just to the south and east).

PLAN-Carrier-Research-01.jpg


2010-PLAN-Mockup-09.jpg
 

Jeff Head

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...in the military, one can have all the training and exercises, BUT the true test of capabilities would be in actual combat with opponent/s. The USAF, USN and other Western Air Forces have these experiences since WW II, and hostilities to date. Besides, pilots of these countries are way ahead in the training with advanced aircraft. But one should never underestimate the Chinese, or the Japanese and South Koreans Air Forces' capabilities in the future.
It might be said, that the true measure of a military is really in being so well trained, and so well prepared, that adversaries recognize the futility in fighting and so combat is not engaged.

In order for that to be the case, your training must be so realistic, and your capabilities in that regard so obvious and well known, and respected, that the adversaries see it and decide not to engage it.

That will not always hold...but it is the ideal.

I do not believe anyone is underestimating the Chinese. Their own history indicates that when engaged, they are dedicated and willing to do what they have to do to achieve their goals. In times past, people have understood that that would require huge human sacrifice because of a lag in technoilogical capability offset by huge numbes of personnel where the strategy would be to use those numbers to offset the other.

Now, however, the Chinese are to a point with their economy and with their finances and technical capabilities, that they are developing and adding the technical capabilities that are close to, or at parity with the leading technology. Any nation would be foolish to the point of derilection to underestimate what that can mean.

The PRC and the PLAN are demonstrating that very principle with how fast they are setting up their carrier operations and the underlying technology, infrastructure, and industry to support it. For us watching, ten years seems like a long time...but given the historical perspective, it is coming together very rapidly.
 
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