075 LHD thread

asif iqbal said:

Don’t care no photo then it’s not a demonstrated capability

It’s like saying WS10 is operational yet not providing a single photo

Total heresay

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WTF are you even talking about at this point? There IS a photo. I posted it already. It makes no difference whether the photo was taken yesterday or a hundred years ago; the fact remains that full load was demonstrated. It makes no difference whether the photo was taken inside of a 071 or inside of the Taj Mahal; the fact remains that full load was demonstrated.

And it's certainly NOT like saying WS10 is operational without providing a single photo, since we already have a photo of a fully loaded 726 as well as numerous photos of less loaded 726s AND we have photos of multiple new construction 726s AND we have multiple photos of shore infrastructure being constructed for this class of ACV. If you are not able to provide reasonable arguments as to why these vessels are being built at an increasing rate AND why the PLAN is investing funds into shore infrastructure for them inside that strange little universe that is your brain, then all your ravings about "FULL LOAD! NOW!!" sound like nothing more than the banshee wail of a child throwing a tantrum because he is not getting exactly what he wants, when he wants.

All wrong

My point still stands

It was not entering or leaving the welldeck

Fully loaded LCAC manoeuvring in confined space due to lack of control and power is the issue

Talk is cheap show photo or remain fan boy dream

asif iqbal said:

All wrong

My point still stands

It was not entering or leaving the welldeck

Fully loaded LCAC manoeuvring in confined space due to lack of control and power is the issue

Talk is cheap show photo or remain fan boy dream

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LOL talk is definitely cheap, including changing the goalposts. Now you want to add "lack of control" due to insufficient power. The facts remain, regardless of your desperate flailing here. The PLAN is obviously and rapidly ramping up production of the 726. You have never addressed this plain fact. The PLAN is obviously building up shore infrastructure for this class. You have never addressed this plain fact either. To any normal person, it looks like the PLAN is satisfied with the current 726 design and is now committed to mass production and deployment of the 726, regardless of whether there are or are not sufficient photographs of loaded 726s to satisfy your personal tastes and medicate your conspiracism.

Found it on a forum... so thought to share here....

Don't know if its shared earlier??

That is OLD.. .I posted the below.....on NOV.14.2011...seven years ago by any count.

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/fan-art-ps-and-cg-images.t4494/page-8#post-166970

and...again on March 19.2012

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/plan-lhd-lph-lha-discussion.t5644/page-8#post-182120

"A "fan boi" CG image of an PLAN LHD/LHA.. looks like she borrows heavily from the USS Makin Island. Why would she need three bow anchors??"

LHD CGI

Since someone's posted here recently, I'll just share a bit of information I learned. Friendly reminder and disclaimer that these are, for now, just rumors (though credibly sourced).

The PLAN's first LHDs, as I hope we all know by now, won't be as large as 40,000 tons as originally predicted. A standard displacement of about 30,000 tons is currently the accepted estimate. The first batch of 075s, as we also know, will see the construction of 3 ships.

Last week, I caught wind on Chinese boards that a second, larger class of LHDs have already been planned to succeed the first three 30,000-ton ships. These new ships will be closer to the 40,000-ton standard displacement originally predicted for the first class. I don't know at which stage of design they currently are.

Again, this is just a rumor for now as far as we're concerned. Remember to take it with a grain of salt.

That makes sense considering the displacement of the Mistral or the Hyuga is like half that. Even the Izumo does not reach 40,000 tons displacement.

Higgle said:

Since someone's posted here recently, I'll just share a bit of information I learned. Friendly reminder and disclaimer that these are, for now, just rumors (though credibly sourced).

The PLAN's first LHDs, as I hope we all know by now, won't be as large as 40,000 tons as originally predicted. A standard displacement of about 30,000 tons is currently the accepted estimate. The first batch of 075s, as we also know, will see the construction of 3 ships.

Last week, I caught wind on Chinese boards that a second, larger class of LHDs have already been planned to succeed the first three 30,000-ton ships. These new ships will be closer to the 40,000-ton standard displacement originally predicted for the first class. I don't know at which stage of design they currently are.

Again, this is just a rumor for now as far as we're concerned. Remember to take it with a grain of salt.

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That's confusing and doesn't make much sense to me.

We haven't even seen a single LHD launched, let alone operated by PLAN. Now they're designing a second, larger class of LHD? Why is this presumed second LHD so closely following the first one? Since PLAN has never operated any LHD, one would think that it at least takes some time for PLAN to operate it before the experience is incorporated into the design of the next generation. LHD is not that difficult to build, compared with some of China's other combat ships. If tonnage is the reason for the second class, why not start with the 40k class from the beginning? Why the need of the 30k class LHD to begin with?

There are so many holes in this rumor; it can hardly be called credible.

weig2000 said:

That's confusing and doesn't make much sense to me.

We haven't even seen a single LHD launched, let alone operated by PLAN. Now they're designing a second, larger class of LHD? Why is this presumed second LHD so closely following the first one? Since PLAN has never operated any LHD, one would think that it at least takes some time for PLAN to operate it before the experience is incorporated into the design of the next generation. LHD is not that difficult to build, compared with some of China's other combat ships. If tonnage is the reason for the second class, why not start with the 40k class from the beginning? Why the need of the 30k class LHD to begin with?

There are so many holes in this rumor; it can hardly be called credible.

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Credible based on its source, not its logic.

Like I said, take it with a grain of salt. A handful, even.

I'd link the source, but the moderators locked the thread. Maybe that's telling us something.

EDIT: I fished the source post back out of my web browser's cache, just for reference.