075 LHD thread

Iron Man

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Just because we don't see another ACV does not mean that China have no plans for another potential replacement or explains why most of the 726 are nearly perpetually tied up in docks and shipyards rather than in the hulls of the Type 071s, more ever it is not just the Type 071s that can utilize the 726s. China also have multiple mobile landing platforms that can also utilize 726s as an assault force.
It's rather poor argumentation to conjure up a non-existent hypothetical ACV of similar size to the 726 (as much as I'd personally like to see one) to support an argument, especially when the PLAN is obviously ramping up 726 production. We've seen limited photos of 726 deployment, but in order to support your argument we'd have to go several steps further into the unknown to pull out a brand new unheard of ACV out of nowhere that no one has breathed even a whisper of. And what do you mean "multiple" mobile landing platforms??? AFAIK China has only one mobile landing platform (the 868 "Guang Hua Kou"), and that thing is a brand new construction.

Now we all know that amphibious capability is a very important aspect that China must have in regards for a particular island of its coast, so why is not China ramping up a key platform if it has no problems at all? Given the flexibility it offers.
Except that China IS ramping up production of the 726, especially now that the QC-70 gas turbine is good to go. Regardless, you could have asked this same question of the 072A back in 2003 (why only 15?), or of the 071 back in 2006 (why only one? and why only now?). Or why did China only purchase Zubrs in 2009? Why is China only developing the 075 now and not 5 years ago? Why wasn't the 075 already constructed yesterday? Isn't amphibious capability "very important" to China? Clearly, amphibious capability was not as important to the PLAN as it is now and/or China did not have the money and/or the technical skill to build up its amphibious capability until recently. All good things come to those who wait; the only problem is that some people don't have the patience to wait for it.

And finally while that picture does shows a fully loaded 726, it is at this point the only known picture, we have no recent photos of the 726 at full load. Most problems only emerges when things are tested to the extreme after all. If the 726 is fine and all should it not then be used on a regular basis with consistently full load, instead of running on empty or near empty with just a squad of soldiers?
The photos we see almost certainly represent the early 726s constructed with the UGT-6000 engine which is known to be problem-plagued and insufficient to allow the 726 to reach its full potential, which is why the PLAN has been putzing around with the same few 726s carrying minimal to no loads. They have of course allowed 726 pilots to train in maneuvering on shore and into/out of 071s; we have seen many photos of exactly this.

Not every doubt and misgiving is whining as you might depict, but the problem is that the 726's progress has been uptill now remarkably slow. Now if the new batch of 726 continues and that we finally see fresh photos of the 726 with full combat load I will happily retract my statement, but until then I will take forum claims and statements with a pinch of salt.
I have dozens of photos of the 726 in action, though only a few with vehicles/barracks in them, so clearly they are not all "perpetually tied up in docks and shipyards". Not only that, the ones that are, are almost certainly new construction, which is why they are seen tied up in the shipyards to begin with. The ones that aren't, are the ones with the old, weaker Ukrainian engine. Again, the latest batch represents the newly-engined, newly-constructed 726s and would not be expected to already be deployed/commissioned. In the next year or two we will certainly see this latest batch integrated into the PLAN and the 071s, and after that, I have no doubt that a flood of the very photos that asif yearns for will start pouring onto the internet.
 
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asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
That photo is years old of LCAC carrying the MBT

Show me one where it’s is entering and leaving the well deck ?

Full load inside a LPD, nothing not even a hint of it after 10 years

You know how it works if it exists we will see it

Without any photo everyone can talk
 

Iron Man

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Registered Member
That photo is years old of LCAC carrying the MBT

Show me one where it’s is entering and leaving the well deck ?

Full load inside a LPD, nothing not even a hint of it after 10 years

You know how it works if it exists we will see it

Without any photo everyone can talk
You and I both know that your time for complaining is limited, so go ahead and keep whining while you still can. The evidence for this is obvious and growing every day.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
You and I both know that your time for complaining is limited, so go ahead and keep whining while you still can. The evidence for this is obvious and growing every day.

No wet dreams please behave like a adult

Even PLAN admitted there issues with LCAC programme but fan boys like you jumping up and down
 

Iron Man

Major
Registered Member
No wet dreams please behave like a adult

Even PLAN admitted there issues with LCAC programme but fan boys like you jumping up and down
Wow, I believe this is the first time I have ever been accused of being a PLA fan boy. Yes, the PLAN admitted and everyone else admitted there WERE problems with the 726. However, you continue to keep your head in the sand and refuse to read the tea leaves and recognize the signs of the times. The ACV infrastructure build-up (and no, it is not for some new, unknown, hypothetical, never-heard-of ACV design) and the sudden ramp-up in 726 construction should have given anyone a clue on what is happening with this hovercraft class, including even you, but all you're doing right now is jumping up and down screaming for "full load!" photos. Like I said already, in your mind there must be some massive idiot in the PLAN procurement stream who is all of a sudden buying multiple copies of this allegedly defective 726 and simultaneously and stupidly building shore infrastructure sites to support them. Maybe you should go ask that guy for some full load photos LOL
 

Figaro

Senior Member
Registered Member
No wet dreams please behave like a adult

Even PLAN admitted there issues with LCAC programme but fan boys like you jumping up and down
No photo didn’t happen

Fan boys dream keep dreaming
Judging from Iron Man's posting history, I can concur that he is the furthest thing from a PLA fanboy. You might not agree with his statements, but there's no need to call him a "fanboy", especially since he has provided support for his claims.
 

taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
That photo is years old of LCAC carrying the MBT

Show me one where it’s is entering and leaving the well deck ?

Full load inside a LPD, nothing not even a hint of it after 10 years

You know how it works if it exists we will see it

Without any photo everyone can talk
Your line of thinking reminds me of many other similar arguments regarding PLA, that assumes that PLA behaves and acts in the same manner of other militaries in the world that they show their flashy new toys as soon as they work or even half work.

I am afraid that you actually don't know how PLA, PRC or Chinese mind works. I and many others here have repeatedly reminded people that PLA and PRC act totally different that their showing is carefully calculated political moves. Showing or not showing something do not carry the same meaning you would expect from other countries. It is just the way how Chinese strategic mind works, we here is to decipher whatever we have. Once again and I repeat again, PLA has NO obligation to tell or show us anything to prove they can or can not, and they don't care if you believe them or not.
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Don’t care no photo then it’s not a demonstrated capability

It’s like saying WS10 is operational yet not providing a single photo

Total heresay
 
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