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True, but it does gave us some insight as to where the direction of the program is going.
CV-18 Fujian/003 CATOBAR carrier thread
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True, but it does gave us some insight as to where the direction of the program is going.
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Why not? The last sketch is just in line with all the things that happened the last 11 years.
Anthying you can do to indrease temop and sortie rate is wrthwile and gives you a far better chance.
Whether facing a unclear powered sniper carrie, a 65,000 STOBARm or a 40,000 STOBAR.
ou con't underestimate any of them,,,andyou bulf in whatever enhancements you can technologically ad and economically afford.
The main reason why I posted those pictures was because they were from fzgfzy. Make of them what you will, but fzyfzg is an acknowledged big shrimp and it would be unwise to dismiss or ignore what content he does show us, period. Don't forget that big shrimps are often our best sources of information.
Even if he is a high-schooler, most of what he's predicted has been generally correct so far, and don't forget that it is him and his team that posts a hefty share of the carrier construction pictures. Furthermore, he is a moderator on the CJDBY naval forum. All of this lends him credibility.
Don't treat those pictures as gospel, but at the end of the day, they were from fzgfzy. This should be reason enough to give his post some consideration, and not dismiss it outright.
Even if he is a high-schooler, most of what he's predicted has been generally correct so far, and don't forget that it is him and his team that posts a hefty share of the carrier construction pictures. Furthermore, he is a moderator on the CJDBY naval forum. All of this lends him credibility.
Don't treat those pictures as gospel, but at the end of the day, they were from fzgfzy. This should be reason enough to give his post some consideration, and not dismiss it outright.
well, the pictures are definitely posted by fzgfzy and they like to play with words on these kind of posts. So no, this is not a joke.
Whether this posts turns out to be the actual ship is something we will not know for a while. But I think this is likely the best indication we will get for at least a few months.
I already explained why not a few pages back... more than once:
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/pl...lopment-news-thread.t8048/page-26#post-420914
https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/pl...lopment-news-thread.t8048/page-27#post-420951
I disagree -- the sketches fzgfzy posted show us very little beyond what fzgfzy's statements about 002 have already told us, because the sketches present far too much opportunity for confusion.
Pictures are worth a thousand words, and what those sketches do is make us wonder if certain things included or left out are a deliberate signal by fzgfzy of what he knows the carrier will look like, or if it is merely what he thinks certain parts of the ship may look like, or if it is just a reflection of his own artistic ability and/or license.
We had a similar sketch that I think pop3 or fzgfzy posted a few years back for 055 as well, but it ended up being very different to what the 055 eventually looked like when the Wuhan mock up was constructed.
So by all means we can use those sketches of his for illustrative purposes, but we should also not put too much stock into the details of those pictures, and we should primarily rely on the statements and words of big shrimps instead, which present far less room for error.
Rick rolled on another level. Or is this naval college?
(Edit: continued reading following comments my apologies.)
So this is pure speculation with speculated specifications (3 cats + 2 elevators)?
So this is pure speculation with speculated specifications (3 cats + 2 elevators)?
This one?
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No...
The characteristics of 002 (and 075) should definitely be taken seriously, particularly the ones that fzgfzy and pop3 have described in words, such as it being a 70k ton standard displacement conventional CATOBAR carrier, with 3 catapults and 2 elevators...
But that does not mean we should interpret that fzgfzy's sketch of 002 to be what 002 will definitely look like, because a picture provides a significantly greater amount of potential error, ambiguity, and artistic license/error/laziness that may accidentally be interpreted as what something will "definitely" look like.
In other words, only look at his sketches as illustration, but at this stage we cannot interpret his sketches (or anyone's sketches) to describe what it will look like.
So just follow their words instead, rather than their pictures. Just pretend those sketches don't exist.
If it was the Chinese Navy officially providing USN style official depictions of their future projects, then that is a different matter, because obviously those depictions would be expected to be very representative and close to the real thing in many details. But we cannot make anywhere near the same assumption for sketches by anyone not in an official capacity, whether they are big shrimps or otherwise.
This one?
Among a few otherss yes.