PLAN Catapult Development Thread, News, etc.

taxiya

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The main leader of the Chinese PLAN EMALS project,
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, Prof. Ma, Weiming has been nominated as the First One of the candidates of just renewly established "Bayi (August 1st)" medal. The Bayi medel is the highest honor awarded to the Chinese service members.
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The medal "勋章" was first established in 1955 and awarded to all Marshals and Grand Generals (4 stars), most of the full generals (3 stars, 49 of 50s) and many others.

It wasn't awarded to anyone after 1955 until today.

I know the bold texts are not necessarily your words, but I do see all over the Chinese internets calling it "newly established" which is very disappointing (not at you) to me as it demonstrates how much lack of knowledge of Chinese own history.

Here is the photo of Marshal Zhu De. The top one of the medal is "August 1st".
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taxiya

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Bayi the highest medal like the US Medal of Honor, or highest non-combat medal?
There is no distinction between combat and non-combat in PLA tradition.

A side note (unrelated to your question) is that, there are two types "勋章" and "奖章". I don't know the corresponding English equivalents, they are awarded to all who served the military, regardless uniformed or civilian dressed persons. "勋章" is higher in rank than "奖章" though.
 

FirnCavalry

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The medal "勋章" was first established in 1955 and awarded to all Marshals and Grand Generals (4 stars), most of the full generals (3 stars, 49 of 50) and many others.

It wasn't awarded to anyone after 1955 until today.

I know the bold texts are not necessarily your words, but I do see all over the Chinese internets calling it "newly established" which is very disappointing (not at you) to me as it demonstrates how much lack of knowledge of Chinese own history.

Here is the photo of Marshal Zhu De. The top one of the medal is "August 1st".
china8.jpg
I'm also very confused and sorry by the media's 'newly' wording. I thought it should be 'renewly' because it has already been established. And I've noticed they had mentioned the '55 version in the same news. Thus they have the responsibility to explain why they applied 'newly' here. IMO, I'd rather say 'awarded' without 'newly'.
 

taxiya

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I'm also very confused and sorry by the media's 'newly' wording. I thought it should be 'renewly' because it has already been established. And I've noticed they had mentioned the '55 version in the same news. Thus they have the responsibility to explain why they applied 'newly' here. IMO, I'd rather say 'awarded' without 'newly'.
Reintroduce would be a better word for it as it means introducing something already exist after a long halt/pause.

I do understand where the confusion comes from. Xinhua was the one to blame, it did use the words "新设立" which literally means "newly introduced/established". See here
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But then nowadays, Xinhua and CCTV has deteriorated to such a low level that many of their editors and anchors have no idea of China's past. A recent example was that a CCTV anchor reporting C919 being the first of China's big civilian airliner attempt while Y-10 in the 1970s was actually the first. Though I will be shocked if the official document within CMC (Central Military Commission) use "新设立".
 

FirnCavalry

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Reintroduce would be a better word for it as it means introducing something already exist after a long halt/pause.

I do understand where the confusion comes from. Xinhua was the one to blame, it did use the words "新设立" which literally means "newly introduced/established". See here
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But then nowadays, Xinhua and CCTV has deteriorated to such a low level that many of their editors and anchors have no idea of China's past. A recent example was that a CCTV anchor reporting C919 being the first of China's big civilian airliner attempt while Y-10 in the 1970s was actually the first. Though I will be shocked if the official document within CMC (Central Military Commission) use "新设立".
Yes, 'reintroduce' is a better one than mine.
 

danielchin

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There is no distinction between combat and non-combat in PLA tradition.

A side note (unrelated to your question) is that, there are two types "勋章" and "奖章". I don't know the corresponding English equivalents, they are awarded to all who served the military, regardless uniformed or civilian dressed persons. "勋章" is higher in rank than "奖章" though.
"勋章" and "奖章" are two different things, a "勋章"(medal) is a recognition of a person's achievement or battle ground performance with categories and levels as listed in an official regulation, such as the Purple Heart. On the other hand, a "奖章" is a certificate of rewards over someone or some group's achievement.
 

Blitzo

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Again, the same pic posted from the j-15/breaking news/threads...

here, I'd like to add a couple of things:

1: we do not know when this picture was taken.
2: We do not know whether it is the first catapult test, or second, or 100th
3: we do not know which J-15A/T/B prototype it is, i.e.: we don't know if there's only one J-15A/T/B or multiple.
4: it looks like the plane in the photo as it was taken, was only being guided into position, and the green helmet in the white jacket is giving the thumbs up to indicate a positive "lock". In other words, the aircraft is not immediately in the process of being launched in this moment which the photo takes, which is also obvious given the jet blast deflector isn't up.
omg catapult.jpg
 

Deino

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Simply phantastic that image !

Interesting, the number of the prototype could be a 1x1 ?! ... so maybe 111 ?
 
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