PLAN Anti-ship/surface missiles

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    TEL now looks like a triple launcher compared to the previous.
     
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    China to showcase new Sea Eagle submarine-launched cruise missile
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    Chinese defense company will showcase the country’s locally built CM-780UNB or also called Sea Eagle submarine-launched cruise missile during upcoming AirShow China 2018 exhibition, which is set to take place in Zhuhai from 6–11 November.

    The CM-780UN See Eagle is a newest Chinese submarine-launched anti-ship and coastal anti ship and land attack cruise missiles.

    The new Sea Eagle missile weapon system is launched from submarine via the standard horizontal torpedo launcher and is suitable for all kinds of submarines. It is used to attack large-medium-sized surface, ship, and fixed land targets and also provide natural underwater concealment of a submarine.

    Sea Eagle is characterized by good launch concealment, strong defense penetration capability, and high hit accuracy.

    it is expected that the export version of the Sea Eagle missile will have a maximum effective range of 350 km and launch depth 60 m.

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    Good on that sea eagle missile. Time to phrase out the C802s, they seem pretty useless. IIRC Iran fired two at an USN destroyer and it did jack all.
     
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    CM-708UN is the latest member of the long running C-801/C-802 family. CM meaning Cruise Missile and has for some years, replaced previous designations, and become the standard term for all Chinese export cruise missile types that includes both land and sea attack. After every Zhuhai, the range of the CM-708 keeps getting longer and longer. 350km is a big jump from 128km before, which is already a big jump from the 40km of the first sub launched C-801 (YJ-81).
     
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    But the PLAN does not use C802 at all It is outdated missile and has been replaced by
    standard issue YJ-83 Buy the newer PLAN ship use YJ 12 or YJ 18
    YJ 83 is subsonic just like Exocet and no better or worse than Harpoon
    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...kness-old-ship-killer-missiles-not-long-30397
     
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    YJ 83 are just non monkey model C802s aren’t they? I’m aware most ships don’t use YJ 83s but at least a few do.

    It being no better or worse than Harpoon is exactly why it is crap. The faster it is phased out, the better.
     
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    They're part of the same family. YJ-81 is domestic and C-801 is export. The change from YJ-81/C-802 to YJ-82/C-802 is from rocket to turbojet, which increased the range. YJ-82 is domestic and C-802 is export, with the export using a French turbojet and the domestic using local turbojet. YJ-83 is improved YJ-82 on electronics. Then over the years, the missile is evolving on the engine and electronics, including the KD-88, which replaces the seeker for a TV unit and used for land attack, sort of like a SLAM and SLAM-ER. The latest ones as per the export market appear to be the CM802AKG, which is air launched and used on ground targets.

    This big evolution can be expressed in the range, with the C-801 at 40km with its pure rocket motor, and by the time you reach the CM802AKG, it reached 235km from an air launch. However, back in 2005, a JH-7A fired a YJ-83 over a tracked range of 255km, so the Chinese might be coy on the actual missile ranges. Then you now have this sub launched CM780UN which is pushing the range to 350km.

    You can't be shy about the potential brought by electronics improvements, since it allows for things like inclusion of datalink for mid guidance control and retracking, much improved resistance to ECM and decoys and the potential to add evasive maneuvers. Improvements also goes from a single active radar seeker to optical TV guided systems for land targeting, and adding IR imaging which makes the missile very difficult to fool since it compares target images to its built in database.

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    I believe at some point the PLA Navy interest on the YJ-8X family has dimmed at some point, as they shifted to the YJ-62, YJ-12 and YJ-18, and even possibly a YJ-100 (likely based on YJ-62 and VLS launched), all for the top end. But defense industry still feels there remains potential for export sales, and you still need ASMs to deal with the niche of targeting smaller ships. And then you still have a huge inventory of ships that use the YJ-83, like all the Type 054As, Type 056s, legacy ships, Song subs, Type 022 Houbeis of which there are over 80. Another is that the PLAAF seems to take over interest on the family for use as an air to ground weapon.
     
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    Given that BP-12B has ASBM capabilities of its own, CM-501 may look similar but is not related to the BP-12, which itself is also competing for the same market along with the M20G, making it three ASBMs.

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    you may be right but It seems BP-12B is more focused towards land targets while anti-ship role is secondary and CM-401 is primarily build for anti-ship role
    plz see the attached video


    one more question If you could answer (or any other member)

    both CM-401 and BP-12b are developed by two different organisations ...or both are the produce by same entity ??
     
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