Any chance this being the mysterious YJ-100 subsonic LRASM? I am vaguely informed that the PLA has a anti-ship version of the CJ-10 cruise missile that could be launched from land-based platforms in addition to air-launch ones. I guess the two canister ones should be YJ-18 since supersonic missiles tend to be larger in diameter.The issue is that there is a variant of the same chassis that is an 8x8 wheeler (which seems to be the new chassis for CJ-10 where the three missile canisters are arranged flat), which is far shorter but with the same width as the 12x12 chassis... yet the 12x12 chassis features missile two much wider canisters than the three slimmer CJ-10 canisters on the 8x8 chassis, meaning the 12x12 chassis almost certainly has a missile which is wider than CJ-10 if not longer as well.
Compare the CJ-10 chassis to the 12x12 chassis you posted on the last page and you get a sense of just how much larger the 12x12 is and how much larger its canister is.
PLAN Anti-ship/surface missiles
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For number of TEL, in general a Rgt have 3 Batalions ( at less one sure have 4, reinforced ) but how many TEL in ?
Organisation of Chinese missile/artillery others also units are close to Russian/Soviet for historical reasons... in general a battalion want a western battery 6/8 TEL, S-300 8 by ex.
Then about 20 TEL ( 18/24 ) for a normal Rgt with 3 Bat x 5 + 1 independent Bat about 110 TEL can be a good number i think.
Always very difficult in more with China for found Coastal missiles data,TOE/Orbat..
NSF :
11th Coastal Missile Rgt ( 31,32,33,34 bat ), Weihei, YJ-62/C-602
12th Coastal Missile Rgt ( 35,36,37 bat ), Dalian, YJ-82/C-802
ESF :
13th Coastal Missile Rgt ( ? Bat ), Zhoushan-Dinghai- Maoling, YJ-82/C-802
1st Coastal Missile Regt ( ? Bat ), Fujian-Fuzhou , YJ-62/C-602
SSF :
2nd Coastal Missile Rgt ( ? Bat ), Shantou,YJ-62/C-602
46th Coastal Missile Battalion, Sanya,YJ-62/C-602
Eventualy all with YJ-62 ? and maybe now one which have YJ-82 can have new YJ-12 ?
Organisation of Chinese missile/artillery others also units are close to Russian/Soviet for historical reasons... in general a battalion want a western battery 6/8 TEL, S-300 8 by ex.
Then about 20 TEL ( 18/24 ) for a normal Rgt with 3 Bat x 5 + 1 independent Bat about 110 TEL can be a good number i think.
Always very difficult in more with China for found Coastal missiles data,TOE/Orbat..
NSF :
11th Coastal Missile Rgt ( 31,32,33,34 bat ), Weihei, YJ-62/C-602
12th Coastal Missile Rgt ( 35,36,37 bat ), Dalian, YJ-82/C-802
ESF :
13th Coastal Missile Rgt ( ? Bat ), Zhoushan-Dinghai- Maoling, YJ-82/C-802
1st Coastal Missile Regt ( ? Bat ), Fujian-Fuzhou , YJ-62/C-602
SSF :
2nd Coastal Missile Rgt ( ? Bat ), Shantou,YJ-62/C-602
46th Coastal Missile Battalion, Sanya,YJ-62/C-602
Eventualy all with YJ-62 ? and maybe now one which have YJ-82 can have new YJ-12 ?
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I think it's just a new chassis for CJ-10.
And at this stage we don't know enough about YJ-100 to even mildly reliably determine its relation to CJ-10.
Anti ship missiles are not necessarily always larger in diameter than land attack cruise missiles, it depends on the capabilities of the specific missiles in question. A harpoon might have a smaller diameter than a tomahawk but a Shipwreck has a larger diameter than a tomahawk.
And if you've followed the posts in the last page or two, I've outlined the reasons as to why I doubt the 12x12 TEL two canister missiles are not YJ-18s. I will summarize it here: I personally suspect YJ-18 to be a relatively medium sized missile -- no larger than CJ-10 and if anything it will probably be smaller -- and if the much circulated photos of the YJ-18 test launch video do depict the missile, then this 12x12 TEL almost certainly is not YJ-18. Also, the 12x12 TEL's missile canisters are far too large compared to the new common VLS on 052D and other future chinese naval surface combatants, further making it seem unlikely that the 12x12 TEL is for carrying YJ-18 as it is generally accepted that the common VLS should be able to fire YJ-18.
Since the diameter of the canister is so big, could it be an anti-ship ballistic missile, a new tactical ballistic missile, or midcourse interceptor (ABM)?
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Not big enough to be a ballistic missile (think Scud size for even SRBM).
Might be big enough to be midcourse ABM I guess, but seems unlikely.
I am thinking about something like S-300V.
Also, if that is indeed a new anti-ship missile, it has to be land-based, or else it is too big to be fitted into the type 052D and 055's VLS.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
You don't have to VLS everything.
There are plenty of PLAN ships with above deck slant box launchers, which they could potentially replace with these canisters.
But I think the most obvious shipboard delivery method option would be the PLAN's Sovs.
Their Sunburns are getting on a little these days, and will probably need replacement in the not too distant future.
Switch them out with these and you will probably drastically improve the ships' lethality and utility.
That makes a lot more sense, plus the range of Sunburns are too limited.
SamuraiBlue
Captain
If the missiles are not designed to be launched vertically then placing them in a vertical canister will most likely end in a misfire.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
What part of "above deck slant box launcher" said vertical launch canister to you?
