PLAN Anti-Piracy Deployments

Spike

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According to the article a British warship had approached the ship earlier in the day but backed off when they realized it had been taken hostage.

The question then is, why was there no communication between navies in the same region? Also since there is apparently a survivor (who states others may have also made it into the water), why didn't anyone go looking for them?
 

dlhh

New Member
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

To Mr T,

Concerning the recent Tibet riots where civilians were attacked and some even burned alive or thrown out of buildings and the Western media still blasted China and ignore the attacks on civilians, you can imagine China concerns about the Western attitude.

Another case in point is the lead toys scare where a few Hong Kong factories quality control were not up to mark but the Western media painted a black picture of all toy manufacturer's in China without making a distinction between the good and the bad. Mattel admitted later that the majority of toys defects were due to bad designs and not just lead paint.
 

RedMercury

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Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

Perhaps this will serve a wake up call to all Chinese, show them how much a threat the USA is. /sarcasm but no really
 

bd popeye

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China will deal with Somali pirates to protect her interest.

This is how rumors get started.

No where in the article does the Major General Jin Yinan say that China will send ships to protect the shipping lanes. Only that China should send ships to protect shipping in that area.

I agree with the Major-General.

China major-general urges navy to fight Somali pirates 04 Dec 2008 08:19:16 GMT
Source: Reuters

BEIJING, Dec 4 (Reuters) - China should send naval ships to help wipe out Somali pirates menacing commercial vessels off Africa, a prominent Chinese military strategist said, urging his nation to take a higher profile in such operations.

Major-General Jin Yinan's comments may reflect growing debate about combating the rising piracy in a country which has generally confined its growing naval strength to waters near home.

Jin told a Chinese radio interviewer that "nobody should be shocked" if his government one day decided to send navy ships to deal with the pirates, whose recent victims have included ships from mainland China and Hong Kong.

"With China as a major world economy, it's very difficult to say that security problems across the world have nothing to do with us," Jin said in the interview reprinted by the China News Service (
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Jin, head of a strategy institute at China's National Defence University, gave no sign that such naval action was under imminent consideration. But he said China's growing clout made it increasingly likely that the government would use its forces in security operations far from home.

"I believe the Chinese navy should send naval vessels to the Gulf of Aden to carry out anti-piracy duties," he said. "If one day, the Chinese navy sends ships to deal with pirates, nobody should be shocked."

A surge in attacks at sea this year in the busy Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean off Somalia has pushed up insurance costs, brought the Somali gangs tens of millions of dollars in ransom and prompted foreign warships to the area.

The victims have included a Hong Kong-flagged ship with 25 crew aboard and a Chinese fishing boat reported seized off Kenya.

On Tuesday, the U.N. Security Council renewed its authorisation for countries to use military force against the gunmen operating out of anarchic Somalia.

NATO ships began anti-piracy operations off the Somali coast in late October, but they have failed to stop the hijackings.

Jin, a frequent commentator in Chinese media, said the country's lack of military bases abroad should not rule out anti-piracy operations. National pride was at stake, he said.

"If we don't take effective action, how will they see us abroad, and how will Chinese people view their government?", he said. (Reporting by Chris Buckley; Editing by Nick Macfie)
 

UCSDAE

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I suspect that the PLAN might just be investigating the feasibility of and the detail logistics of such a force. If the PLAN does not want to send out a task group, they will probably stay mum as the usually do. Maj. Gen Jin's statement, I think, reflects a prevailing attitude within the central command(I am pretty sure they are itching to let the PLAN get some experience in high sea). Although there are also calls for private security arrangements by individual shipping companies, staffed by ex-servicemen.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
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There's already Western navies patrolling for pirates and they haven't been able to hinder them. Sounds like the only way is to have hired security or the crew armed or actually have military travelling along with the ships. With the Indian navy destroying a fishing trawler that was taken over by pirates mistakenly identifying it as the pirate mother ship, sounds like that angle got more complicated.

This is probably going to be like the airline industry before 9-11. Before they thought it was too expensive and complicated to have armed security on planes like we're hearing about security the commericial shipping industries today. That oil tanker taken over by pirates should be of concern. A terrorist could blow up an entire tanker at a port causing commercial and environmental havoc.
 

bd popeye

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Sounds like the only way is to have hired security or the crew armed or actually have military travelling along with the ships.

Exactly! A. Mace is 100% correct.

The Dutch and the French appear to be actually doing something to counter the pirates. All countries concerned should take actions to protect the shipping lanes in the Horn of Africa region.

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Member of the Dutch special forces & Navy stand guard on board Dutch cargo ship MV Jumbo Javelin as it passes near the Gulf of Aden on Monday, Dec. 8, 2008. The Dutch warship De Ruyter, seen in the background, is escorting the cargo ship through the Gulf of Aden, which has become the world's top piracy hotspot this year.

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In this photo released on Monday, Dec. 8, 2008 by the French Defense ministry, and taken from French anti-submarine frigate "Jean de Vienne", two armed French Navy officers taking part in the "Atalante" escorting and protection mission, supervise a convoy of cargo ships sailing through the Gulf of Aden, off Somalia's coasts, in this photo taken Saturday, Dec. 6, 2008. About 50 cargo ships travel daily through the Gulf of Aden, a strategic waterway that links the Indian Ocean with the Suez Canal and the Mediterranean Sea.
 
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joshuatree

Captain
Re: Somali pirates and Chinese navy

Considering it's a huge task in attempting to patrol such a large swatch of ocean for pirates, any feasibility in using blimps for anti-piracy patrols along shipping lanes? Ability to spot from high up, long loitering times, easy to match ship speeds, possible weapons platform?
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
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One would think that what happened in the incident with the Indian navy the only way to be sure is when an unidentified boat speeds up along side of you and throws up a grappling hook... it's unload time no questions asked. Maybe some good old fashion medieval hurt like pouring over some boiling oil.
 
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