PLAN Aircraft Carrier programme...(Closed)

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SpicySichuan

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Well the wuhan mock up is definitely having its island reshaped, and is likely indicative of the first indigenous carrier's island geometry and arrangement.
I can't say much regarding the CGIs as they're obviously fan made, but the suggested new arrangement of the arrays does seem similar to the study diagrams from a few years back that was part of the pic you posted

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Keep in mind this doesn't necessarily mean 001A or 002 will feature the same configuration as these proposals, but it does mean the PLAN has likely evaluated a variety of different configurations with this being one of them.
Well...at least the Liaoning can launch three jets in one sequence. However the design show above only has two catapults, so it looks quite similar to the Charles De Gaulle design, except the latter is powered by nuclear rather than diesel/gas turbine.
 

Blitzo

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Nah the mock up is definitely modified like that.
It's been like that for a year or so now, and there were quite a few photos of the mods at the time. So definitely not a PS.


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Well...at least the Liaoning can launch three jets in one sequence. However the design show above only has two catapults, so it looks quite similar to the Charles De Gaulle design, except the latter is powered by nuclear rather than diesel/gas turbine.

It actually reminds me more akin to some of the CATOBAR CVF proposals.
Either way, having more launch points doesn't necessarily mean a faster overall launch rate, it also depends on the size and configuration of the deck around the launch point.

The usefulness of simultaneously launching and recovering an aircraft is probably also a little overhyped and not fully essential
 

FORBIN

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Or extra room for munition storage?
Seems impossible, on CV always in the nearest part of the hull very bottom because less vulnerable to impacts in the flight deck. For increase hangar too far from him.

Charles De Gaule ammunition storage in orange color :
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Ultra

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LOL!
I am betting that sign in the middle says "Forbidden to photograph" or something alone that line. I can only make out the first 2 letters which says "forbidden" the rest of the letters are too blurry to make out. Its funny as this is sooo China - they put a sign to warn people not to photograph and that's about it! If this has been in the west where they want to keep the secret they would put the fence taller to at least cover all the vintage point. Or if this has been in Soviet Russia they would put snipers all around the perimeter.. ;)


It actually reminds me more akin to some of the CATOBAR CVF proposals.
Either way, having more launch points doesn't necessarily mean a faster overall launch rate, it also depends on the size and configuration of the deck around the launch point.

The usefulness of simultaneously launching and recovering an aircraft is probably also a little overhyped and not fully essential


Agree, it also depends configuration, spacing and location of the deck elevators.
 

Jeff Head

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Btw photo 6.17 stated that the plan is based on "a particular foreign design." So is it Charles De Gaulle or Admiral Kuznetsov? It is seems like a combination of these two to me.
If they are going with two cats, one forward and the other waist, then the most obvious designs that have actually been built and operate in that configuration would be the French Clemenceau class and the Charles de Gaulle.

They operate in that fashion.

The Brazilian Sao Paulo which is the 2nd Clemenceau class, has been visited by the PLAN.


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Clemenceau class deck layout

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Charles de Gaulle class deck layout
 

Subetei

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What are the operational advantages of one bow and one waist cat, as opposed to two bow cats? Caveat: on a Liaoning size carrier
 

Intrepid

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What are the operational advantages of one bow and one waist cat, as opposed to two bow cats? Caveat: on a Liaoning size carrier
On the bow planes can be parked, which are just landed. A single catapult can be kept easily free. The space occupied by the catapult can be used for the relocation of the aircraft.

A second catapult there would be mostly occupied by parked aircraft.
 

asif iqbal

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Yes definitely could be possible they are working on the system for the second carrier which is still possibly a far bit away
 
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