PLAAF Munitions

broadsword

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Where did you get the speed and range figures from? The placard I have seen for the missile did not mention range or speed.

I got it from the web.

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There was quite a lot of buzz over at the Pakistan and Indian sites over this missile. There are actually more pictures of the Zhuhai show at the Pakistan site than here. I can't imagine how quiet here would be without Escobar. He has doped us.
 

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There was quite a lot of buzz over at the Pakistan and Indian sites over this missile. There are actually more pictures of the Zhuhai show at the Pakistan site than here. I can't imagine how quiet here would be without Escobar. He has doped us.

I have seen those before and that was the placard I was referring to before and I have not seen any range or speed figures on any of them, so I really wonder where the claimed range and speed figures came from.

As near as I can piece together, a PAF officer might have said something about it's range and speed, but those are all hearsay and at least second hand. I would at least want to see a video of said officer making those claims before I will take that 240km range and M5.5 speed as legit.

The lack of reaction is probably also because thus far, none of the claimed range and speed figures (or even payload for that matter) have been verified.
 

tphuang

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I have seen those before and that was the placard I was referring to before and I have not seen any range or speed figures on any of them, so I really wonder where the claimed range and speed figures came from.

As near as I can piece together, a PAF officer might have said something about it's range and speed, but those are all hearsay and at least second hand. I would at least want to see a video of said officer making those claims before I will take that 240km range and M5.5 speed as legit.

The lack of reaction is probably also because thus far, none of the claimed range and speed figures (or even payload for that matter) have been verified.

I think people that went to the air show reported on the range and speed number. It wasn't on any posters, but it sounded legit from what I read.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Here's what Jane's wrote on it.

CM-400AKG becomes Pakistan's 'carrier killer'
Robert Hewson, Zhuhai Section:

2012-Nov-16

Key Points; A new Chinese-developed very-high-speed missile has been fielded by the PAF.

The weapon has been described as the PAF's 'carrier killer'

Pakistan has fielded a new very-high-speed long-range air-launched missile that senior officers in the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) have described as "an aircraft carrier killer".

The CM-400AKG is a Mach 4 plus-capable air-to-surface weapon developed in China and now in service with JF-17 aircraft of the Pakistan Air Force. (Robert Hewson) The weapon, designated CM-400AKG, was designed and developed in China by the China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC) and was revealed at Airshow China 2012, held in Zhuhai from 13-19 November.

The CM-400AKG is now part of the operational weapon set of the PAF's JF-17 Thunder multirole fighter. "This is a mature weapon that has been fully tested. It is not conceptual. It is in service," Air Commodore Mahmood Khalid, PAF JF-17 Deputy Project Director stated. "The CM-400AKG is a very high-speed missile that is very difficult to intercept. It hits the target at Mach 4 or above and its kinetic impact alone is enough to destroy any high-value target, like an aircraft carrier."

The CM-400AKG first appeared, briefly, in public at last year's Dubai Airshow, when a placard for the weapon was placed alongside a PAF JF-17 - and then removed. The weapon itself was not shown. At the time PAF personnel acknowledged it was a new Chinese-built air-to-surface stand-off missile. However, the initial assumption that it was a derivative of the C-802 anti-ship missile has proved to be very wide of the mark.

The CM-400AKG is a 400 kg solid-rocket-powered weapon that can be fitted with either a penetrator or blast/fragmentation warhead.. It is a fire-and-forget precision-guided weapon that can be fitted with several seeker options, which are understood to include an active radar seeker and an imaging infrared seeker with target-recognition (TR) capabilities. PAF sources say the missile can be pre-programmed with digital imagery for highly precise attacks against fixed sites in TR mode, but it can also be retargeted in flight by using the radar seeker option

The range of the CM-400AKG is understood to be in the 180-250 km class. It is designed for use against fixed or what were described as "slow moving" targets. CASIC data indicates that after launch the CM-400AKG climbs to high altitude and terminates with a high-speed dive on the target. The PAF describes the missile's impact velocity as "hypersonic" (> Mach 5).

Both CASIC and the PAF note that the CM-400AKG has been developed as a JF-17 weapon. The PAF currently has two squadrons of approximately 36 JF-17s operational. A further ten or eleven aircraft have been delivered and a third squadron will be established early next year.

I wonder if the Chinese version has a longer range beyond export limits. I read someone in a Chinese forum say it was too big for the J-20s weapon's bay. Were there any dimensions given anywhere?
 

Lion

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It seems PLAAF and PLANAF is not interested to deploy this missile. They are building it for export. I think PLAN still believe in using subsonic saturation low flying attack for anti-ship missile like the American.

I have long advocate China is absolutely capable of producing something like yakhońt missiles. It just a matter of choice. They may not like the huge heat signature which makes it easier to track. Unlike their DF-21D which flys top down and real super fast of 10 Mach.

If really needs, I think they will trust their land based DF-21D ASBM more.
 
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