PLA Small arms

TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
modern suppressor cans if built right can have a life span as long as the host weapon's barrel especially when fired with sub sonic ammo so serial matching makes some sense. Any Idea on the magnifaction of that sight? I am betting 1.5x or a 2x max with a small laser pointer.
 
MwRYum

MwRYum

Major
TerraN_EmpirE said:
Any Idea on the magnifaction of that sight? I am betting 1.5x or a 2x max with a small laser pointer.
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Very little was available about that sight online, what I could find was that it's a 3x scope with laser pointer.

That reminds me: the next time I've that opportunity, photographing the markings inside the scope might better be done using my iPhone, DSLR lens just couldn't focus in such short distance unless using special focal lens. Other than that, it's quite hard to give it good detailed recording when under intense noon sunlight, and at least 10 kids with their folks waiting behind you for their turn...
 
plawolf

plawolf

Lieutenant General
I'm confused by the slots, how would that work when the silence is a screw on? There does not appear to be any switch on the body of the gun to turn to engage the locking bolts that slot into those slots after being screwed in place.

And personally, I cannot see the PLA adopting such a complicated locking mechanism.

Feels like I'm missing something obvious...
 
L

Lezt

Junior Member
MwRYum said:
Very little was available about that sight online, what I could find was that it's a 3x scope with laser pointer.

That reminds me: the next time I've that opportunity, photographing the markings inside the scope might better be done using my iPhone, DSLR lens just couldn't focus in such short distance unless using special focal lens. Other than that, it's quite hard to give it good detailed recording when under intense noon sunlight, and at least 10 kids with their folks waiting behind you for their turn...
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You just need a macro lens, or if you don't have one, get a cheapo lense and reverse it onto the lense mounted on the DSLR; you will have terrific magnification
 
MwRYum

MwRYum

Major
plawolf said:
I'm confused by the slots, how would that work when the silence is a screw on? There does not appear to be any switch on the body of the gun to turn to engage the locking bolts that slot into those slots after being screwed in place.

And personally, I cannot see the PLA adopting such a complicated locking mechanism.

Feels like I'm missing something obvious...
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Do you see the small button at the base of the front iron sight? You press it and start unscrew the silencer. IIRC, 2-3 revolutions and you''ll be free to unscrew it the rest of the way without pressing the button.

But still, I don't see the necessity of such designs, as far as I can recall that takes more than 10 revolutions to unscrew the silencer out, so why you'd need a lug type locking design?
 
plawolf

plawolf

Lieutenant General
MwRYum said:
Do you see the small button at the base of the front iron sight? You press it and start unscrew the silencer. IIRC, 2-3 revolutions and you''ll be free to unscrew it the rest of the way without pressing the button.

But still, I don't see the necessity of such designs, as far as I can recall that takes more than 10 revolutions to unscrew the silencer out, so why you'd need a lug type locking design?
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Good eyes, I never noticed that before.

So it's a screw-on with a locking mechanism.

Interesting. I must admit, I did not expect the PLA to go for such a complex solution because of their famously (infamously?) tough reliability and durability requirements.

But maybe it is precisely those requirements that necessitated the locking mechanism to prevent the silence becoming loose and partially unscrewing through regerious use.
 
TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Why the lugs?
Cans on automatic and semi automatic weapons are under pressure from there very operation. The force of the operation and the method of gas muffling. The vibration of the barrel and weapons cycling.
This means that the suppressor is being pushed by vibration of operation and pressure. It can shoot loose or begin affecting point of impact making the shooter loose control and accuracy.
To counter this modern suppressors often include a mechanical lock in the design that prevents the can from coming loose and falling off the gun. On some cans the lock is obvious like on this weapon on others its built into the muzzle device adapter or the female connection of the can.
 
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MwRYum

MwRYum

Major
TerraN_EmpirE said:
Why the lugs?
Cans on automatic and semi automatic weapons are under pressure from there very operation. The force of the operation and the method of gas muffling. The vibration of the barrel and weapons cycling.
This means that the suppressor is being pushed by vibration of operation and pressure. It can shoot loose or begin affecting point of impact making the shooter loose control and accuracy.
To counter this modern suppressors often include a mechanical lock in the design that prevents the can from coming loose and falling off the gun. On some cans the lock is obvious like on this weapon on others its built into the muzzle device adapter or the female connection of the can.
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I thought the locking mechanism is for quick-detach design, instead of as an addition to the threaded type design.
 
TerraN_EmpirE

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
It's still QD its just that you want a.solid lock on QD. Remember the projectile is still being effected as it passes through the can. That can effect accuracy in a big way. The point of shift can mean alot. If you can get a returnable Point of Impact every time you mount the can you can zero the weapon sights for it and be more accurate.
 
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