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TerraN_EmpirE

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Weapons like these are actually very accurate because the centrifugal force of the rotation means that the weapon self stabilizes. Of course on the other side they are heavier and piss though ammo, they also need a power supply for the electric motor that rotates the barrel and then there is lack of a safety. If you rotate the barrels by hand it will fire the weapon.
 

Sunbud

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Pictures of PAP QBZ 95-1 with a picatinny rail attachment. If this is a standalone addition, this would make more widespread adoption of rifle optics and/or standardisation in the PLA a more financially and logistically viable option, and one that should be looked at very seriously for the future. Whilst procuring the actual optics themselves remains a costly prospect for such a large force.

Would be great to see more standard issue and training with rifle optics, would LOVE to see rifle optics with collimator sights on top in service :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:!
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Weapons like these are actually very accurate because the centrifugal force of the rotation means that the weapon self stabilizes. Of course on the other side they are heavier and piss though ammo, they also need a power supply for the electric motor that rotates the barrel and then there is lack of a safety. If you rotate the barrels by hand it will fire the weapon.
Did they ever try that ? That would have been terrifying ? Imagine one soldier idly spinning the barrel thinking it would not fire then "bang".
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
Did they ever try that ? That would have been terrifying ? Imagine one soldier idly spinning the barrel thinking it would not fire then "bang".
It's happened before. IT's because of the way the system works. Each rotation actuates the action of the weapon. It has to work that way to get the awesome rate of fire.
 

MwRYum

Major
Can't wait for the PLA to mount these on their helos for area suppression. Got to love that "Brrrttttt'' when they mow down guys like a Black Hawk Down movie.
If it's mounted on Z-20, then people will find it even harder to tell if it was US Army or PLA they face, especially at night...
 

MwRYum

Major
Pictures of PAP QBZ 95-1 with a picatinny rail attachment. If this is a standalone addition, this would make more widespread adoption of rifle optics and/or standardisation in the PLA a more financially and logistically viable option, and one that should be looked at very seriously for the future. Whilst procuring the actual optics themselves remains a costly prospect for such a large force.

Would be great to see more standard issue and training with rifle optics, would LOVE to see rifle optics with collimator sights on top in service :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:!
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Thing is, PAP has more discretional freedom in trialing and/or adopting such aftermarket modification kit.
 

Hendrik_2000

Lieutenant General
One expensive rifle This people can't help themselves disparaging Chinese rifle how they know ? if it inferior
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PLA infantrymen now have powerful rifles, but still lag US
A pricey new gun is being rolled out that will mark a long-overdue improvement to soldiers' gear
By ASIA TIMES STAFF JANUARY 22, 2018 7:08 PM (UTC+8)

Chinese President Xi Jinping, who also heads the Central Military Commission, reportedly tried out a powerful new rifle worth half a million yuan (US$78,000) during his recent visit to an infantry combat team under the People’s Liberation Army’s Central Theater Command.

The big gun, part of the PLA’s QTS-11 system, is the result of a decade of painstaking efforts to catch up in the race to arm soldiers, emulating the US Army’s revived Land Warrior program and the discontinued Objective Individual Combat Weapon program.

Weighing around 5 kilograms, the 5.8-millimeter-caliber rifles, integrated with 20mm grenade launchers, are capable of shooting targets within a radius of 200 meters in a strafe-like fashion, according to the Beijing-based Science and Technology Daily.

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A soldier displays the entire QTS-11 kit. Photo: PLA Daily
Together with other wearable gear such as thermal imagers, laser rangefinders, wearable computer and positioning, communication and situational awareness helmets, the whole QTS-11 kit costs a grand total of 1 million yuan a pop. It has already been deployed to about 50,000 infantrymen and other troops for special duties, air assault and paratroopers brigades of 13 field armies, Hong Kong-based Ming Pao newspaper reports.

This is a 500 million yuan trial aimed at ramping up combat strength, with an emphasis on an individual infantry soldier as a complete unit rather than as a segment of a larger force in urban warfare and dismounted infantry actions.

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Xi Jinping (right) is seen trying out the QTS-11 rifle. Photo: China Central TV
Shown on a China Central Television news program, Xi appeared to take a keen interest in the big gun on display and even peeped into the gunsight and aimed the rifle at a target as instructed by a soldier.

That said, it remains to be seen when the QTS-11 can be rolled out to equip more troops in PLA infantry units.

Analysts note that as night-vision goggles, bulletproof glass, optical aimers and other gear have long been standard issue for a US soldier, these items are still something of a luxury for their Chinese counterparts.

Even bulletproof vests are not as omnipresent among Chinese troops and armed policemen as many think.

“Since 2008, some Western think-tanks claim that China’s military spending has risen to the second-highest globally, but the title of ‘second in the world’ hasn’t given Chinese soldiers any greater sense of security,” The Wall Street Journal cited a 2014
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by the Guangzhou-based Southern Weekly as saying.

“The individual soldier’s equipment cost – a matter of life and death on the battlefield – has remained at the levels seen five years ago,” the 2014 article said.

“US defense spending is worth five times that of China’s, but the cost differential between the two countries in terms of individual soldiers’ equipment is more than tenfold.”

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Some PLA marine corps have also been allocated the QTS-11 rifles. Photo: Xinhua

Still, the QTS-11 system could be a game changer, and it has also been reported that a military hospital of the East Theater Command is now developing an Ironman-like, weight-bearing suit mocked as a “wearable skeleton” to carry heavier gear as Beijing aims to put more gadgets and devices on each of its infantrymen.
 

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
PLA infantrymen now have powerful rifles, but still lag US
A pricey new gun is being rolled out that will mark a long-overdue improvement to soldiers' gear
By ASIA TIMES STAFF JANUARY 22, 2018 7:08 PM (UTC+8)
Weighing around 5 kilograms, the 5.8-millimeter-caliber rifles, integrated with 20mm grenade launchers, are capable of shooting targets within a radius of 200 meters in a strafe-like fashion, according to the Beijing-based Science and Technology Daily.
IMO The Biggest and most important shift in the QST11 is not the QST11 It's the Sighting system.
The 20mm portion has been done. The Round it fires is not a Super high velocity 20mm It's at best equaled by the XM29's old rounds.
IT's likely that the South Korean K11 will have a longer range and would have a faster reload due to the magazine.

the 5.8mm portion is not that special. It's a conventional assault rifle. There are a number of more impressive intermediate calibers in the works. The rounds are also conventional and atleast 2 nations are working on alternative ammunition types The US Cased Telescopic Small arms Technology and the Canadian SNIPES.

Those two parts together might seem impressive but Again The XM29 pioneered the K11 is just as far along. And 40mm rounds are getting the Airburst capacity. to a degree they managed to get such a system down to a remarkably lightweight yet really not uber light. no The biggest point is The targeting system.

The optic and rangefinding are the parts I think are the most important for the PLA and potential export.
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This shooter is aiming off boresight using the optic to see around the corner. The World is increasingly urban and combat is more and more likely to be in urban. Urban combat demands both infantry and armored vehicles. Artillery although useful falls into a trouble spot because of both treaties on the rules of war and population.
Attacking urban with artillery means that the local infrastructure is broken down, People have to flee to survive. That turns them against you, It also means that end of war if you are occupying territory you would have to make a major investment to rebuild. A trouble point if you are a Mainland nation trying to reign in militarily a troublesome semi independent Island state... I am not trying to debate that situation here but simply stating that Artillery for such is about as effective as sending Godzilla.
Shooting around corners, range finding, Night vision capable. Not a total game changer to be sure The K11, XM29, Trackingpoint all have systems like that but for the PLA an army that doesn't issue general issue optics and happily feeds tech to 3rd world armies it would be a shift.
 
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