PLA reorganisation ... from 7 military regions to 4 strategic regions

schlieffen

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Apart from what taxiya has summarized, which I think is excellent, there is some bitter irony here, in that the PRC is by all means the true Party-state that Sun Yat-Sen and Chiang Kai-Shek dreamt of but never successfully built. Despite referring to his state as Dang-Guo (党国) at every possible opportunity, Chiang’s KMT regin was through and through a military junta, maintained by a personal secret police and a loose syndicate of local warlords.


Today the party has long ceased to be a revolutionary pioneering force (they admit it themselves) so the state and party are basically one, both being a façade of the huge bureaucratic machine that rules China. The thing is, in many parts of the world if the ruling elite rules with a degree of benevolence, people are likely to live with the establishment until things start to get terribly wrong. Are things terribly wrong in China at the moment? Definitely not, regardless what you hear from Western media. Will the status quo last for long? I cannot possibly tell.


In addition, the system with all its kleptocrats has yet to became an aristocracy. Its is still sufficiently dynamic that commoners still have a real hope of climbing the echelon of society through determination, diligence, talent and of course some luck. If history is any indication this usually means the regime has yet to reach its terminal stage.
 

Brainsuker

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I just curious. What will this reorganization affect the performance of the PLA in the battlefield? What will this reorganization bring?
 

Deino

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.... and still no decent maps of these reorganised zones available ??
 

DeltaBravo

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Does anyone have any idea what this reorganization will do to the membership of the CMC? Is the CMC expanding from the original 10 members? If not, how will the CMC reconcile the membership with the new structure?
 

AndrewS

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Apart from what taxiya has summarized, which I think is excellent, there is some bitter irony here, in that the PRC is by all means the true Party-state that Sun Yat-Sen and Chiang Kai-Shek dreamt of but never successfully built. Despite referring to his state as Dang-Guo (党国) at every possible opportunity, Chiang’s KMT regin was through and through a military junta, maintained by a personal secret police and a loose syndicate of local warlords.


Today the party has long ceased to be a revolutionary pioneering force (they admit it themselves) so the state and party are basically one, both being a façade of the huge bureaucratic machine that rules China. The thing is, in many parts of the world if the ruling elite rules with a degree of benevolence, people are likely to live with the establishment until things start to get terribly wrong. Are things terribly wrong in China at the moment? Definitely not, regardless what you hear from Western media. Will the status quo last for long? I cannot possibly tell.


In addition, the system with all its kleptocrats has yet to became an aristocracy. Its is still sufficiently dynamic that commoners still have a real hope of climbing the echelon of society through determination, diligence, talent and of course some luck. If history is any indication this usually means the regime has yet to reach its terminal stage.

Excellent analysis.

If I look at the record of the past 35 years, China probably has had the most effective government anywhere in the world.

Plus I think China will avoid an aristocracy being entrenched for the following reasons.

1. The Communist Party politburo agreed decades ago that only 1 son/daughter could enter politics. That decision consigns the descendants of senior government members to inevitably lose power and influence - as they will naturally grow fewer and few in number. In any case, they are outnumbered by millions of fresh Party members who can and have ascended to the halls of power.

2. We now have market capitalism in China which keeps existing companies efficient and competitive. It also allows for the creation of new wealth and industries by smart ambitious individuals. We only have to look to the Chinese technology sector to see stories of rags-to-riches, and the nature of the information age will only continue to drive this trend.

Furthermore, China is comprised of multiple provinces, some of which would be amongst the largest countries in the world if they were standalone. Each is a centre of economic power and also political decision-making, which again drives competition and innovation and renewal inside China
 

Deino

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Tried my best to find a map but nothing official. There are various maps from the media, but none with a reliable source even if re-used by multiple outlets.


I just found this ... however again not sure, how reliable ! Any help PLEASE !!!:(

New to me is that the Shandong Province "is" / would be / will be part of the Northern Command !?

Deino

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Deino

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O.k. ... but I just noticed both are varying quite a lot esp. Yunnan Province in the South and/or West and also regarding Shandong Province assigned to the Northern Command.

:confused:

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O.k. ... but I just noticed both are varying quite a lot esp. Yunnan Province in the South and/or West and also regarding Shandong Province assigned to the Northern Command.

:confused:

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If you go by potential flashpoints or contingencies the multi-color map on the left makes more sense. In that map the Southern zone will face all of SouthEast Asia rather than splitting that "front" between two zones based on land versus sea borders. Anyways I am still not convinced we have seen the real map yet.
 
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