PLA New Dog Tag

taxiya · Mar 8, 2017

Iron Man said:
Where did you get 1 unit of Rh- blood per 10,000 soldiers from? Yes, that is clearly inadequate. Even 10 ten times that much is inadequate. On the other hand, making an argument this way is like saying that spreading one MRE amongst 100 soldiers in a company is clearly inadequate. Also, your assumption that civilian hospital blood banks don't transfer blood from other hospitals/blood banks due to this being cost- or time-prohibitive is definitely wrong. In fact for rare blood types this is the USUAL method of obtaining blood.

You missed reading my "Let's say ... is adequate".
I just pulled a random number to compare with civilian peace time hospital. I can take 1 per 100 people if you like. So long as the percentage is the same between peace and battle, the comparison is still ok.

I did not assume that. Actually the easy transportation of civilian hospital is a supporting point to show that it is less desirable for soldiers to be Rh- in war time.

My comparison is to illustrate that in case of civilian peace time, the transportation is much easier, but for any field hospital (between the 10) it is dangerous or even impossible. Because of this, you must prepare 10 times of Rh- for the battle field than civilian peace time.

Iron Man · Mar 8, 2017

taxiya said:
You missed reading my "Let's say ... is adequate".
I just pulled a random number to compare with civilian peace time hospital. I can take 1 per 100 people if you like. So long as the percentage is the same between peace and battle, the comparison is still ok.

I did not assume that. Actually the easy transportation of civilian hospital is a supporting point to show that it is less desirable for soldiers to be Rh- in war time.

My comparison is to illustrate that in case of civilian peace time, the transportation is much easier, but for any field hospital (between the 10) it is dangerous or even impossible. Because of this, you must prepare 10 times of Rh- for the battle field than civilian peace time.

So if you read my recent post this turns out to be a moot discussion. Rh- blood for types A, B, and AB are probably not going to be carried at all, while O- blood will definitely be on hand and will be overrepresented compared to general population prevalence of this type.

vesicles · Mar 8, 2017

Guys, there is no excuse for not including the Rh- types, period. Let's stop trying to find excuses. Again, my take is they must have placed it somewhere else we haven't seen yet. Let's wait and see...

mys_721tx · Mar 8, 2017

Has anyone checked what is on the QR code? This is my best effort so far and I can only get a integer "04234346" from it.

Iron Man · Mar 9, 2017

vesicles said:
Guys, there is no excuse for not including the Rh- types, period. Let's stop trying to find excuses. Again, my take is they must have placed it somewhere else we haven't seen yet. Let's wait and see...

Don't make the mistake of thinking that blood banks not carrying certain blood types is equivalent to not needing to distinguish Rh- types for each individual soldier.

mys_721tx · Mar 9, 2017

I decoded it!

Following is the raw bytes of the QR code.

C380C3AE C383C38F C391C3B4 0A4C4920 4D454E47 2059414E 470A4F0A 34333131 32313139 39363034 30373639 31310A30 0A

The first twelve bytes presumably are "李孟阳" in a unknown encoding.

C380C3AE C383C38F C391C3B4 0A

Then we have "LI MENG YANG".

4C49204D 454E4720 59414E47 0A

His blood type, "O".

4F0A

His resident Identity number, "431121199604076911".

34333131 32313139 39363034 30373639 31310A

And finally a "0". The purpose of which remains unclear.

300A

Again, the dog tag lacks the provision for Rh blood group designation even in this machine readable form.

vesicles · Mar 9, 2017

Iron Man said:
Don't make the mistake of thinking that blood banks not carrying certain blood types is equivalent to not needing to distinguish Rh- types for each individual soldier.

What are you talking about?

My post meant to say Rh types are absolutely essential.

Iron Man · Mar 9, 2017

vesicles said:
What are you talking about?

My post meant to say Rh types are absolutely essential.

You were accusing us of "making excuses" for why Rh types were not necessary. Who exactly is making these excuses and what excuses were we making?

vesicles · Mar 9, 2017

Iron Man said:
You were accusing us of "making excuses" for why Rh types were not necessary. Who exactly is making these excuses and what excuses were we making?

I wasn't talking about you. I was actually agreeing with you. As I said, no excuses for not indicating the Rh types.

Some others have been trying to find excuses... In my opinion, "small % of Chinese being Rh-" or "logistical difficulties of carrying Rh- blood types" would be considered as excuses.

Not sure what's going on, but you have been especially combative lately and been arguing with a lot of people. I am not interested in getting in one of those arguments, either this is a misunderstanding or you actually disagree with me.

Iron Man · Mar 9, 2017

vesicles said:
Not sure what's going on, but you have been especially combative lately and been arguing with a lot of people. I am not interested in getting in one of those arguments, either this is a misunderstanding or you actually disagree with me.

Oh god.

Your post quoted nobody and was posted just after mine. Why wouldn't I assume you were addressing me since myself and the others were all talking about the same thing, namely the amount and type of blood units stored in various blood banks???

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