PLA missile defense system

Martian

Martian

Senior Member
Hendrik_2000 said:
You are free to believe or not to believe that is your personal opinion. But it doesn't meant ASBM doesn't exist!

At the level of Admiral Willard he doesn't just blurted statement without any justification specially in front of congress!
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Hendrik, there are many people from the subcontinent who intentionally try to ruin threads on China. It has happened to me on many forums. Reasonable people can read the news articles that you and I have recently posted and reach reasonable conclusions about China's ASBM system.

However, please do not fall into the trap of engaging in a back-and-forth with the people who want to ruin the thread. Their aim is to smear the thread with a back-and-forth war of words. You know what they say, "please do not feed the trolls."

I suggest that you spend your time on something more productive. There is nothing more that can be achieved here on China's ASBM.

I want to thank you for posting the informative articles on Pershing II and THAAD. They were very interesting and enlightening.

Best regards,

Martian
 
Hendrik_2000

Hendrik_2000

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I don't know if this true or not
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US report claims China shoots down its own satellite08:02, July 19, 2010
For the second time in three years, China has shot down one of its dysfunctional satellites with a missile, US-based Foreign Policy magazine reported in its latest issue.

The destruction of the satellite, which reportedly happened in January, shows China's defensive missile ability, the magazine said.

China's Ministry of National Defense has yet to comment on the report.

The reported firing took place at almost the same time as a successful missile interception test that China conducted on Jan 11.

The website of Hong Kong-based Phoenix TV said the anti-satellite missile test, if confirmed, is likely related to the missile interception test, which occurred at the peak of a dispute between Beijing and Washington on a massive US arms sales deal to Taiwan.

During the interception test, US agencies spotted two missiles launched from two locations from the Chinese mainland, colliding outside the atmosphere, a Pentagon spokesperson said.

China's Foreign Ministry then said the interception test was defensive in nature and was not targeting any country.

Many military scholars believe it was targeting the Patriot missile defense system that Taiwan was trying to buy from the US at that time.

China's first anti-satellite missile test was conducted successfully on Jan 11, 2007, destroying an abandoned Chinese satellite.

The Foreign Policy article did not reveal any other details of the move or any response from the US government.

Chinese military experts even warned that Washington appeared determined to surround China with US-build anti-missile systems.

However, Peng Guangqian, a Beijing-based military expert, said the newly reported anti-satellite missile test was not necessarily related to the US arms deal with Taiwan.

"It was a large test which needs time to prepare for," he said.

"If confirmed, I think it was a further step for China to improve its defensive ability in space."

Peng also said that China has long advocated the principle of a nonmilitary outer space, on which the US has long kept silent.
 
siegecrossbow

siegecrossbow

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Hendrik_2000 said:
I don't know if this true or not
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US report claims China shoots down its own satellite08:02, July 19, 2010
For the second time in three years, China has shot down one of its dysfunctional satellites with a missile, US-based Foreign Policy magazine reported in its latest issue.

The destruction of the satellite, which reportedly happened in January, shows China's defensive missile ability, the magazine said.

China's Ministry of National Defense has yet to comment on the report.

The reported firing took place at almost the same time as a successful missile interception test that China conducted on Jan 11.

The website of Hong Kong-based Phoenix TV said the anti-satellite missile test, if confirmed, is likely related to the missile interception test, which occurred at the peak of a dispute between Beijing and Washington on a massive US arms sales deal to Taiwan.

During the interception test, US agencies spotted two missiles launched from two locations from the Chinese mainland, colliding outside the atmosphere, a Pentagon spokesperson said.

China's Foreign Ministry then said the interception test was defensive in nature and was not targeting any country.

Many military scholars believe it was targeting the Patriot missile defense system that Taiwan was trying to buy from the US at that time.

China's first anti-satellite missile test was conducted successfully on Jan 11, 2007, destroying an abandoned Chinese satellite.

The Foreign Policy article did not reveal any other details of the move or any response from the US government.

Chinese military experts even warned that Washington appeared determined to surround China with US-build anti-missile systems.

However, Peng Guangqian, a Beijing-based military expert, said the newly reported anti-satellite missile test was not necessarily related to the US arms deal with Taiwan.

"It was a large test which needs time to prepare for," he said.

"If confirmed, I think it was a further step for China to improve its defensive ability in space."

Peng also said that China has long advocated the principle of a nonmilitary outer space, on which the US has long kept silent.
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Again???

The article clearly stated that the satellite interception took place in January but how come we didn't get any international response? The first time China obliterated a satellite American astronomers were able to confirm the kill within a day!

Either everyone is used to China conducting ASAT tests or journalists are making things up (the likely scenario).
 
bladerunner

bladerunner

Banned Idiot
Scratch said:
I just find it unreasonable to believe the ASBM will be a reliable game changer in a few years under full up wartime conditions when there's not been a single test of a missile hitting a floating anything on the ocean under peacetime conditions in a test environment.
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Its all bluff, designed to deter anyone/ USA , in coming to Taiwans aid.
 
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ZTZ99

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bladerunner said:
Its all bluff, designed to deter anyone/ USA , in coming to Taiwans aid.
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How would someone like you know what is bluff and what is not when it come to the ASBM? A "bluff" that is obvious enough to an internet poster to see through it does not have any deterrant value to a military that is obviously going to be smarter than you, so you are contradicting yourself in the same sentence.
 
bladerunner

bladerunner

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ZTZ99 said:
How would someone like you know what is bluff and what is not when it come to the ASBM? A "bluff" that is obvious enough to an internet poster to see through it does not have any deterrant value to a military that is obviously going to be smarter than you, so you are contradicting yourself in the same sentence.
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Jeeez ... its only an opinion Political considerations are at the forefront of PLA thinking, sometimes even overiding the military aspects of the prospective battlefield. Putting doubt in Taiwans political leaders on whether America is prepared to risk coming to her aid can go a long way in preventing her from embarking on a course of action which a requires military response.
 
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ZTZ99

Banned Idiot
bladerunner said:
Jeeez ... its only an opinion Political considerations are at the forefront of PLA thinking, sometimes even overiding the military aspects of the prospective battlefield.
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You have no idea whether this is actually true wrt the ASBM.

bladerunner said:
Putting doubt in Taiwans political leaders on whether America is prepared to risk coming to her aid can go a long way in preventing her from embarking on a course of action which a requires military response.
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Again, if someone like you can supposedly see through this "bluff" that you call the ASBM, what makes you think either Taiwan or the US military will not see through the same bluff? Perhaps they are not as premature as you to call it a bluff when you don't even personally possess any kind of information that would enable you to call it a bluff.
 
bladerunner

bladerunner

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To date there has been a sizeable opinion from scientists/engineers (China's included) familiar with the subject, as well as other well read forum members , voicing doubt on the overall effectiveness of a ASBM Some of this doub't are Chinas own academics. But that doesnt mean the project , doest have its usefulness. The task would be to create enough doubt, so that no one would not be prepared to call the bluff, and congrats, to it if China does get it to work extremely effectively.

Bluffing can achieve its purpose , look how good NK is at, in holding the world to nuclear ransom , with a non nuclear test. or America bluffing Japan into thinking she could drop more nuclear bombs in quick succession after Nagasaki when in fact she had none left.
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ZTZ99

Banned Idiot
bladerunner said:
To date there has been a sizeable opinion from scientists/engineers (China's included) familiar with the subject, as well as other well read forum members , voicing doubt on the overall effectiveness of a ASBM Some of this doub't are Chinas own academics.
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I doubt you could quote any significant number of these academics. You could say "sizeable" and not have to back up any of it. This statement is essentially meaningless.

bladerunner said:
But that doesnt mean the project , doest have its usefulness. The task would be to create enough doubt, so that no one would not be prepared to call the bluff, and congrats, to it if China does get it to work extremely effectively.
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That's a ridiculous statement when your original claim was "it's all a bluff" as if with one hand you could sweep away this system with your powerful knowledge. Good grief.

bladerunner said:
Bluffing can achieve its purpose , look how good NK is at, in holding the world to nuclear ransom , with a non nuclear test. or America bluffing Japan into thinking she could drop more nuclear bombs in quick succession after Nagasaki when in fact she had none left.
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"Bluff" presupposes that you already know the ASBM is ineffective in the same way that you know the Americans only had two bombs. I am simply pointing out the fact that you don't have the first clue whether it is or not. NK is a similarly failed comparison since you also don't have the first clue whether NK actually has a real bomb. Again, you stating "bluff" implies you have inside knowledge of a system when in reality you are as clueless as anyone else.
 
AssassinsMace

AssassinsMace

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This was posted by GT over at SDF. Apparently a warning was issued that some test is about to take place.




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