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  1. taimikhan
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    Not as big as Afghanistan or Iraq. Before accusing atleast do some checking how how much aid has gone where and in which sectors.

    And why should Pakistan show its gratitude ?? America is the reason we are in this sh*t, the world is in this sh*t.

    Do you know how much Pakistan has suffered economically due to this War of Terror launched by the US to serve its own purposes ??

    Any idea on the human cost Pakistan has to pay ??

    Why don't you ask US/NATO, that why do they leave border posts wide open, full valleys / province empty on the Afghan side when we do critical operations on this side of the border, thus the militants from this side crossing freely to the Afghan side and there Afghans giving them full support, protection and the US/NATO forces doing nothing about it ??

    Do you have any idea how and how much US aid money to Afghanistan is being channeled to Taliban as protection money ?? Why is Opium production on rise after US invaded Afghanistan ??

    Before asking Pakistan, do ask the US and other western countries for their contribution in this mess.

    Pakistan has paid a very heavy price, economically as well as militarily & human cost wise, much more then any nation has done, who created this whole mess.
     
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    A friend in flood, is a friend indeed.

    Pakistan badly needs to do something about it's economy. Aid can give only temporary relief .... nothing more.

    Even without floods, Pakistan needed to focus hard on it's economy.

    USA will be, what it always has been. It's the same USA with which Japan, South Korea ... and even China have worked with over the years. Each became rich.

    Why does Pakistan stand as an exception .... the only "friend" of USA which, despite the friendship, remains poor (... compared to other friends of USA: First Japan, then South Korea .... lately, China).

    India seems to be learning the lesson from Japan, SK and China, though. It seems to going the path taken by Japan, SK, China.


    Hook-on to the powerhouse and gather speed .... after that you can be on your own.


    Any true friend of Pakistan, will advise it to look at these examples.


    See, China is in worse floods .. but doesn't really need any aid. And nobody is talking.





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    See - Everybody is competiting hard :)

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...aid-to-flood-hit-Pak-/articleshow/6467271.cms
     
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    How can India supply NATO, it does not share a land border with Afghanistan?
    They can send it through Aksai Chan, Xinjiang and then through the wardakh corridor, thats their only option? Nato is still dependent on Pakistan. Floods are not gonna destroy Pakistan, just a setback.

    Do you think article is largely true?

    My point was that if India were able to control Pakistani (and Chinese) Kashmir that they would have a border with Afghanistan.

    Do I believe the article? No But the fact that such powerfully backed sources are trying to convince people it is, should be cause for concern, especially at this very vulnerable time.

    Re troops: I also wonder if there is an element of disinformation payback for Chinese refusal to issue visa;'s to Kashmiri's using Indian passports and that the PLA troops being discussed are actually those in the Chinese controlled regions.
     
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    Army passes intel to Govt: PLA men at pass linking PoK to China

    Army passes intel to Govt: PLA men at pass linking PoK to China



    The Army has received confirmation that China deployed an infantry battalion of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) at the 15,397-feet Khunjerab Pass on the Karakoram highway this month for the security of its workers engaged in building a railroad. This railroad will eventually connect Xinjiang to the port of Gwadar in Balochistan, Pakistan.



    The Khunjerab Pass straddles the border between China and PoK and is 272 km from Gilgit in the Northern Areas. This PLA deployment is expected to be raised to brigade strength (3,000 troops) as work on the railroad progresses in the Northern Areas.



    Writing in The New York Times — the article was carried by The Indian Express — Selig S Harrison, director of the Asia Program at the Center for International Policy, reported that 7,000-11,000 PLA troops are already in the Gilgit-Baltistan region.



    The Indian Army brass has taken note of the deployment of 1,000 troops at Khunjerab Pass but is not unduly alarmed about the build-up.
     
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    This SS Harrison does not even try to hide his blatent anti-China sentiment. He says Chinese attempts to build raila do road linkso pakistani ports need to be 'resisted'. The reason? Because those links would benefit China of course. The opinion of someone like that is going to be pure biased garbage.
     
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    Time to put the rumors to rest once and for all:

    DAWN.COM | Pakistan | Pakistan denies giving Gilgit Baltistan to China

     
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    Ya.. so this ends here. I was also searching at dawn.com, specifically.
    Missed finding this item.

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    Similar item in chinese press too (globaltimes.cn)

    http://world.globaltimes.cn/asia-pacific/2010-09/568985.html
     
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    China says reports of troops in Pakistan wrong - Taiwan News Online


    Not suprisingly Indian newspapers have carried this news far and wide. Use Google News and type in "Gilgit". These lies do highlight the tense relationship between the nations.

    @FinMccool

    What a load of BS, not suprised the you have that opinion since every western amd India newspaper repeats the same stuff. Apart from large areas of North Waziristan, everywhere else the military has weakened insurgents. It was only in 2009 did Pakistan seriously toke notice of Taliban, before that people foolishly believed in negotiation.

    On the other hand, US generals wont admit that withdrawing from Nuristan and Kunar is a big mistake. Huge areas along the Pakistan border are wide open. Insurgents do not need huge tracts of land to survive, unlike conventional armies, now they have tens of thousands of square kilometers to operate in.

    Also US generals invaded Iraq and only left a handful of peacekeepers in Afghanistan. If US did not illiegally occupy Iraq, the US could have pressured Pakistan to shut down cross border havens earlier. Some military thinkers in Pakistan thought the US had abondoned Afghanistan thus decided to sit back and let Taliban regroup.

    Pakistan is not blameless, but US is meant to be more rational and intelligent, still it blundered.
     
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    Am I the only one who is happy that China is building railroads, roads, and tunnels to further connect China to Pakistan? They could be future avenues to supply aid to the region via China (e.g. in case of an earthquake or flooding), speed up trade links, and maybe pathways for LNG/oil transport.

    They make it sound like China is suddenly seizing territory like a land-grubbing ogre.
     
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    If I were the United States I would be all too happy to hand the unholy mess that is Pakistan off to China to further my alliance with India.
     
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