PLA Army's transport helicopters

Su-27 Pilot

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PLA owns both Blackhawks and Mi 17 for transport needs. But for SOME reason that the Army favor the Mi 17 as thier front line troop transport than the UH Blackhawk I wonder why ??
Since China is very good at copying military hardware so production shortages will be out of the list.
 
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As far as I remember (I haven't checked any data so I may be wrong) Chinese haven't copied the blackhawk. Maybe it's politics with US. Anyhow, I think they have like 20 blackhawks which would lead me to believe that's the reason why it's not front line copter. Just not enough numbers. I assume they have far bigger number of mi17s and it's better to standardize such equipment/transpotr platforms.
 
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Totoro said:
As far as I remember (I haven't checked any data so I may be wrong) Chinese haven't copied the blackhawk. Maybe it's politics with US. Anyhow, I think they have like 20 blackhawks which would lead me to believe that's the reason why it's not front line copter. Just not enough numbers. I assume they have far bigger number of mi17s and it's better to standardize such equipment/transpotr platforms.
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True, but I think the PLA is aware of Blackhawks's overall performance is better than the Mi17 as afront line troop trasnport. So let us hope the Blackhawks will be the main backbone as a trasport copter. But again as the Air force and the Navy eats up most of the annual military spendings, and Army only gets a small piece of cake.
 
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True, but I think the PLA is aware of Blackhawks's overall performance is better than the Mi17 as afront line troop trasnport. So let us hope the Blackhawks will be the main backbone as a trasport copter. QUOTE]

You know that there's no way USA ever going to sell China more blakchawks...

...and as the Mi-17 is availble even to possiple licence production, why on earht would china go trhu difficoult and exhausing reverse-engineering task?
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stonewind

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The blackhawks you mentioned were sold in the cold war 80's. When China was hoping to be able repel a soviet invasion. Few were sold to China in the 80's and after the collapse of big red and tianamen square insident, the U.S. no longer shared interest in making the land of tsing an ally. Therefore the sale of military equipment ceased.
 
MIGleader

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on another thread, there was a story about a guy who smuggled black hawk engines to china, possibly for reverse engineerring a complete engine. china is also making its own transport copter that is to better than black hawk.

sikorsky ahould just open a plant in china.
 
MadMax

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the MI 17 is better for large cargo because it has a rear door plus it probably can carry more troops inside
 
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muyang523

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Su-27 Pilot said:
PLA owns both Blackhawks and Mi 17 for transport needs. But for SOME reason that the Army favor the Mi 17 as thier front line troop transport than the UH Blackhawk I wonder why ??
Since China is very good at copying military hardware so production shortages will be out of the list.
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It think the promblem is the 20 blackhawks still in service are to old and needs spare parts, but the U.S. don't want to sell it to China. Plus do you guys think China should purchase Mi-26 Halo.
 
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MIGleader said:
on another thread, there was a story about a guy who smuggled black hawk engines to china, possibly for reverse engineerring a complete engine. china is also making its own transport copter that is to better than black hawk.

sikorsky ahould just open a plant in china.
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well, I'd think any future Chinese transport helicopters would be based on the technology China learnt from the Sikorsky project. Remember, they were actually involved in the development, that must have helped. At the same time, they got a lot of contacts with Western Helicopter companies from WZ-10 project.
 
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walter

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China is also in talks with eurocopter for coproduction of some or one model (not sure which one(s)). It will of course be a civil model, but China will surely gain valueable experience and technology from the program.
 
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