pla armored vehicles

a lack of certain information on armored vehicles has driven me to maker this thread

does anyone have some good information on the development, stats, progress, and pics of chinese second gen ifv? sinodefence doesnt get too detailed with it.

another discussion topic can be, should china design a new light/city tank based off of the type 63a? or will an ifv do?

alos, anyone have some good information on the development progress of the new 120mm anti tank vehivcle designed to supercede the type 87? sinodefence doesnt have much.

any more information of the ld-2000 project? is it going to be in dervice? should it be?

I think its just me. But I still Prefer the GOOD OLD BMP 1 over the new Wheel-based APCs. BMP-1 with upgraded AT missiles its a must.

not really. even thought type 86 was upgraded, i think it's still based on old bmp-1. so i don't think it could be any better. btw, type 92 wheeled APC is for motorized division, while type 86 is for mech, different things. but HJ-73 C is a very good ATM.

teh Bmp-1 can be to support landings as even the best taiwanese tank can not withenstand a blow from it

but other then that its just geting tooo old

Light tank/city tank..... The type 59 can do for now.
If China wants one, I think it can either be from the type 59 or an IFV. The type 99's hull is probably too long to manuver well in some cities.
It needs to have a back-engine since you might need to conduct tank size CQB and a turret near the front means less exposure. Also, you need mainly HEAT protection. There will be bazookas all around you.
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I don't like the type 86. It's protection isn't very well.
Plus, you already have the type 89, which is very verstaile and can carry most arnaments. Type 92 isn't all there is out there.
I'd probably make a lot of type 89s instead, APCs and IFVs.
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Taiwan have good tanks too you know. Maybe not the best, but if you are expecting an IFV to blow it, good luck.

oh yes, type 86 will blow the CM41 or whatever the name is. it has the HJ 73C, it's like the third best ATM next to HJ9 and HJ8

ja, i think i heard that type 89 is mainly for exporting, but to my opinion, i like 89 much better than 63. like what they said on FAS, "a steel box with wheels on it".

red guard, the 89 is in service with the pla. the 85 was the 89 verient for export. actually, the 89 was the 85 for the pla, since the 85 was developed first.

ahhhhhhh, i always mixed up those two, thanks. but i don't see 89 issued to PLA a lot.

I think the type86/BMP1 is completely obsolete for head to head combat with frontline armored vehicles. It should be treated primarily as an armed transport and not armor.

agreed, panasian. the vehicles armor is very limited, and all of its components(fuel, engine, cabin) are squeezed together. any rpg could score a mission kill on the vehicle. the firepower fo the 86 is also a bit behind. being a cold war desing, the 86 was design for fast combat in nuclear war. it no longer meets the requiremnets of modern war. thats why im so interested about china's second gen ifv