PLA Anti-Air Gun systems

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Yup, that's my blog. Unfortunately I don't get to update it nearly as often as I'd like due to other obligations (family and the like), but I try to put something up there at least every two weeks, with the goal of updating it more often.
 
planeman

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Interesting to see the differentiation between HQ-9 and S-300 sites - like most people I'd labelled them all as S-300 on my Google Earth. To what extent do you suppose the sites are inter-system compatible?



Am i right in thinking you're the chap with the Google Earth placemarks of SAM sites for download? I used to have it on my PC but I lost it when I got a new computer - I recall finding a few that weren't on the list and I could point them out to you if you like - though your IDs are way better than mine. I famously mistook an AH-1 dispersal in Iran for HQ-2. But, I have found Rapier and unidentified SHORAD in Iran and Egypt (most likely Aspide in the latter case).

My crowning jewel is the Krivak frigate in North Korea - how/why no-one else seems to have noticed it is beyond me.
 
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Yeah, I do the SAM placemark file for Google Earth as well. You can download it from my blog on the right side of the page, there's a "Recommended Downloads" block.
 
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Here's a question...is the HT-233 the guidance radar for the HQ-9? Sinodefence.com gives HT-233 as the FLAP LID-style guidance radar, but I'm starting to hear other designators tossed about.
 
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what about SJ-231?
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I think it is the guidance radar for KS-1A, but probably could be used for HQ-9 too. I'm personally a little skeptical toward HT-233's figures, because most Chinese sources have mentionned ranges of greater than 100 km, which would totally contradict the 90 km tracking range given for HT-233.
 
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I wouldn't be so quick to assume that a single engagement radar could guide multiple types of SAM systems.

Also, the SJ-231 does appear to be the same array as previsouly identified as HT-233...could the HT-233 have been misidentified? It is likely that there is an early warning radar for the system, and that could be the HT-233 (a 64N6 or 36D6 analog). What do SJ and HT stand for?
 
Baibar of Jalat

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I always wondered if this section Sinodefence was a typo mistake or not. If not a mistake how does the missile be guided upto 200km when tracking range is 120km then 90km for targeting. Am I missing some crucial information.

Thanking you in advance. The percieved problems are highlighted and underlined.

The HQ-9 is reported to have a slant range of 200km up to an altitude of 30km. The missile has a proximity fuse with an effective range of 35m, which goes active when the missile is 5km away from its target. The missile is transported and launched on Taian TAS5380 8X8 transport-erector-launcher (TEL), which has four canisters that look almost identical to those used in the S-300PMU1. Like the S-300, the FT-2000 is cold-launched.

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The HQ-9 system reportedly uses a large HT-233 3D C-band mono-pulse planar phased array radar, which operates in the 300MHz bandwidth and has a detection range of 120km and tracking range of 90km. The radar can detect targets in azimuth (360 degrees) and elevation (0 to 65 degrees), and is capable of tracking some 100 airborne targets and simultaneously engaging more than 50 targets. The radar system is carried on a Taian TAS5380 8X8 heavy-duty cross-country vehicle.

The HQ-9 may also be compatible with the Russian tracking radar, making it suitable to be deployed in combination with the S-300
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Chinese do not treat SAM systems in isolation. The missile is just a component of the overall AD network, and can be guided by other radars.
 
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