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LOL I was just guessing what F-35 Detractors would say based on that article and, about four hours later, they did (on this occasion I don't consider it appropriate to post the link, but if you insisted ...)
by the way the argumentation (or "argumentation") of F-35 Detractors/Extollers is simple: any successes/failures (real or perceived) are downplayed, and if it may not work well, they go against the poster (last weekend I reported one such an attacker in F-35 Thread)
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and in case you asked me do I think ... I stand by this: Aug 4, 2016
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#1 let's wait and see if F-35 performs as advertised by the vendor (its line being repeated by the US Military, "quantum leap" and stuff), but
#2 the question remains (and soon may be gone, or asked by many, that's why I'll pose it for the SDF recordnow) if those tremendous resources had been better used on other aircraft than F-35
EDIT what I mean by #2:
kinda abstract economics rule says one should look at what would've been achieved by alternative project(s) in comparison to the one actually procured ... for example if you had invested one mil into something, you should then compare your gain, of for example 100 Grand, to what you would've earned if you had invested into something else, and evaluate the actual investment based on this: had it been realistically possible to gain 200 Grand by investing that one mil differently, your 100 Grand surplus would be a failure LOL!
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With it seems logic now they go for buy a 3rd batch of F-35i for a total of 75 but in fact on the way for much more as for F-16 one of the more big operators.
...more to Fobin's post:
Here's a couple of more pictures of the Egyptian Navy Anwar el Sadat, 1020 LHD:
...and of course, this beautiful ship follows on the heels of the Gambel Abdel Nasser, 1010, LHD that the Egyptian Navy already took delivery of. Here's a couple of pics of her:
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Here's a couple of more pictures of the Egyptian Navy Anwar el Sadat, 1020 LHD:
...and of course, this beautiful ship follows on the heels of the Gambel Abdel Nasser, 1010, LHD that the Egyptian Navy already took delivery of. Here's a couple of pics of her:
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It is really interesting to see the Egyptian with these large LHDs.
They really have very little to defend them with.
They do have the one FREMM FFG, and four Oliver Hazard Perry FFGs, and the first Gowind LHD, which will be followed by three more.
But the only one really capable of defending them on an area basis in a modern environment is the FREMM, with its 16 modern VLS cells.
The Perrys can help against less capable missiles with the single arm launcher and the forty Standard SM-1MR missiles, and the Gowind has 16 VLS for Micas...but as I say, the Fremm is the only one that could mount a strong modern defense...and even then, the ammo reserves are small.
The MIstrals are great LHDs, but these ships have been sold to Egypt with very little in the way of self defense. I think right now they just have four .50- cal mounts.
I wonder if France or someone else is going to sell them and mount some sort of effect CIWS on them?
A couple of SeaRAMs and a couple of Phalanx would be very helpful for these vessels.
They really have very little to defend them with.
They do have the one FREMM FFG, and four Oliver Hazard Perry FFGs, and the first Gowind LHD, which will be followed by three more.
But the only one really capable of defending them on an area basis in a modern environment is the FREMM, with its 16 modern VLS cells.
The Perrys can help against less capable missiles with the single arm launcher and the forty Standard SM-1MR missiles, and the Gowind has 16 VLS for Micas...but as I say, the Fremm is the only one that could mount a strong modern defense...and even then, the ammo reserves are small.
The MIstrals are great LHDs, but these ships have been sold to Egypt with very little in the way of self defense. I think right now they just have four .50- cal mounts.
I wonder if France or someone else is going to sell them and mount some sort of effect CIWS on them?
A couple of SeaRAMs and a couple of Phalanx would be very helpful for these vessels.
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Syria is fighting (ex-)Al Qaeda on their half of the Golan and will not invite Israeli interference. When the terrorists fire into Israel, without hitting anything significant, Israel attacks the Syrian army. That has long been the pattern.Syria Shoots at Israeli Jets, Flying Toward War?
Syria shot two surface-to-air missiles at Israeli jets—and they shot at the Israeli jets not even over their own air space.
These were not errant missiles or spillover shots which is military parlance for mistakes. These missiles were calculated and intentionally targeted shots from an S-200 Russian missile system aimed at Israeli jets that were, quite frankly, targeting Syrian rocket launchers.
This is a major change in Syrian engagement. It could signal an escalation of tensions between Israel and Syria, especially because three mortars were shot from Syria into Israel later that day.
The reason Syria feels it can engage Israel is very clear. One word—Russia. Syrian leadership believes that Russia will protect them from Israel.
Until now Israel had a carte blanche to fly over Syrian airspace. They did as they wished, and there was no significant response. Israel had a relatively free hand. That ended on Tuesday when Syrian President Bashar Assad began implementing his decision to change the entire status quo and push Israel out of Syrian airspace and off the offensive.
Shooting the S-200s was part of this plan. This weapon was delivered to Assad’s father by the Russians in the late 1960s and was almost never used. The S-200 has a range of almost 200 miles (300km). A range that puts almost all of Israel’s major population centers at risk as well as all commercial aircraft coming in and out of Tel Aviv’s Ben Gurion Airport.
The Syrian press, which Israel closely monitors, declared that their High Command repelled Israeli aggression. According to the official statement released by the government to the press, “The high command issued an order at 1 a.m. to strike at the aggressive Israeli attack.” The statement also claimed that Syria “downed an Israeli plane west of Kunetra.”
The Syrian headline read “The Army High Command Said That the Syrian Air Defense Systems Activated Against Israel War Jets and Shot Them Down.” This is more than an exaggeration. It is propaganda—part of a two-pronged effort aimed at establishing Syria’s military force as powerful and foreboding. First, it is an attempt to make Syrians feel as if they are finally standing up and taking a military stand against Israel. Second, it serves as a message to terror groups opposing Assad, telling them that his forces are now strong enough to confront Israel. And if they are strong enough to confront Israel, they are certainly powerful enough to wipe out ISIS and Al Qaeda.
But using a weapon like the S-200 was either a plain old big mistake, or it was a huge message out of proportion to the events. Maybe it was both. The Israeli fighters were flying low. Despite its relatively old age in military years, the S-200 is still a long range and high altitude missile of 40,000 ft.
Until now Israel has very clear mission when acting inside Syria. Whenever dangerous weapons were moving or arriving that would change the balance of power, Israel would strike. If the weapons were from Iran and headed to Hezbollah, Israel would strike. Israel would also punish Syria when its rockets and missiles specifically targeted Israelis or important locations—not rockets gone astray.
We know that Russia has given Syria the green light in many areas. I cannot imagine, however, that Russia signed off on this latest adventure. Russia does not want to test its technological military prowess against Israel over Syria.
The potential embarrassment to Russia would be so humiliating to them and jeopardize their entire Middle East plan. Imagine if there engaged in a dog fight over Syria or the Mediterranean and Russia took more losses than Israel. The entire episode would take only a few seconds—blink and it’s over. If Israel were to emerge victorious, which is highly probable, not only would Russia lose face but the ripple effect of that encounter in the Arabic and Muslim world would turn Israel into a superpower even greater than the Arab world already believes her to be.
Russia cannot afford that kind of risk. They are playing for the long run in the Middle East. This was an amateur move on Syria’s part. There will be repercussions.
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... I guess it'll become obvious what I meant in
... after (article dated September 16, 2016 at 3:25 PM)