Pakistan's H-4 Missiles.

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    After 2 years of the test it is still not confirmed wheather H-4 a BVR air to ground missile or a BVRAAM.

    If it is a derivative of SA'a T-Darter than it is a BVRAAM but most reports have called it Air to Ground Missiles.

    If it is BVRAAM than it would be interesting to see which PAF prefers most. H-4 which is made by Pakistan in Pakistan or SD-10 which is made by China, in China but is partialy financed by Pakistan.
     
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    why would china need pakistan to fund a missle? they could just do joint development.
     
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    how is it that Pakistan can produce long range AAM and we can't?
     
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    Because Pakistan can fund thats why. We have had 7.8% of GDP growth + we wanted to have share of SD-10. NESCOM was not ready with H-4 & we dint know wheather it ever will be. But than when they came out, they came out with not one but 3 Missiles. 2 Air-to-Ground BVR Missiles & One BVRAAM.

    Its not long range. Its medium range with 120Km but NESCOM is working on longer range of 150Km to 160Km. At this range upgrading point China may be invited to help aswell because T-Darters only have 120Km & our knowledge is of only 120Km.

    How do we make it? From studying T-Darter sold to us by South Africa.
     
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    Actually, from what I heard in the past, the H-2 and H-4 are based off the South African Raptor Air-to-Surface Glide Bomb series. The H-2 is based off the Raptor-I (60km range) while the H-4 is based off the Raptor-II (120km range), and supposedly has some rocket extension or something (from what I remember).

    The PAF reportedly does have a BVRAAM, the T-Darter (60km range), which is basically an improved South African S-Darter. However do note that the H-2, H-4, and T-Darter are NOT of Pakistani origin, but of South African origin. IIRC AWC bought them off, and did some improvements or modifications for the PAF, that is all. China is far ahead in BVRAAM development tech than Pakistan.
     
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    after all these years, all we can get is SD-10 with a range of 70 KM? What the heck is that? We don't even know the accuracy of this thing.
     
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    Although you'll need to recall the range of the majority of your aircraft's radars, do they even exceed 70km? the majority of them I mean, the ones who are supposed to carry SD-10 extensevely? China is ahead in development in BVRAAMs, do note that even SD-10 is a start and definately not the end of a bright future. Pakistan on the other hand carries BVRAAMs, and that is limited to T-Darter (improved S-Darter) and perhaps a minute number of MICAs.
     
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    The range of KLJ-3 and KLJ-4 should be greater than 70 KM. Basically, the 4th generation planes we have should have greater radar than 70 KM.
     
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    Yeah, but what about the majority if your fleet in the next 5-6 years?

    IIRC if China could develop the SD-10, it would only take them 10 years to develop a successor, given their industrial and technological capability. SD-10 may not be good, but its a good start, and for China, a huge pioneering step to success. In 10 years, when perhaps the more advanced and better versions of J-10 are being built, the PLAAF will induct a more advanced and much more capable version of SD-10.
     
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    let's hope that's the case, right now we are relying on the Russian AAMs.
     
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